PokerStars Hand #110696565644: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2014/01/25 14:28:58 AEST [2014/01/24 22:28:58 ET]
Table Castalia II 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: wexzy220 ($43.41 in chips)
Seat 2: Yoshi Smokes ($26.45 in chips)
Seat 3: gongcheng198 ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 4: dragonolte ($77.68 in chips)
Seat 5: HPTruong ($17.49 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($25 in chips)
wexzy220: posts small blind $0.10
Yoshi Smokes: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards Dealt to Hero
gongcheng198: folds
dragonolte: folds
HPTruong: folds
Hero: raises $0.39 to $0.64
wexzy220: folds
Yoshi Smokes: raises $1.36 to $2
Hero: calls $1.36
Flop (Pot : $4.10)
gongcheng198 is disconnected
Yoshi Smokes: checks
Hero: bets $2.75
Yoshi Smokes: calls $2.75
Turn (Pot : $9.60)
Yoshi Smokes: checks
Hero: bets $8.25
Yoshi Smokes: raises $8.25 to $16.50
Hero:
jvilla777   Australia. Jan 25 2014 15:55. Posts 1348
how do u calculate that term "getting the right price on a call"?
I think that is the question I am trying to ask on this spot.
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!
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FrEaK[S.sIR]   Canada. Jan 25 2014 16:23. Posts 1848
You're getting just under 4.5:1 aren't you?
You still need to make roughly $3 on the river to be profitable.
You have $3.75 left after calling, so it's profitable if he never has AA, or any blockers. You have 7 outs vs AA and 8 if he has AdKx or something, both of which you don't profit.
So it's either a very high variance and extremely marginally profitable call, or it's an unprofitable call.
If you had like...$10 more, it'd probably a call, since you can open shove on diamonds and he'd be getting about 3:1 on a call.
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 25 2014 20:48. Posts 15163
say we just call ignoring the $3.75+nex street
1) Calculate % needed
On one street:
EQ Needed=Amount to call / end pot
EQ Needed=(8.25/16.50+8.25+8.25+9.60)*100
EQ Needed=(8.25/42.6)*100
EQ Needed=19%
2) Estimate his range, calculate your equity vs the range. It can be done manually but using equilab or pokerstove is faster
3) if equity>%needed =>Call
if Equity <%needed =>fold
Step 2 against unknowns should be done using discounting, say you think on average random opponents will do this 1/3times with AA (same as that 33% of people with villain's available information play AA this way 66% bet it on flop) you just include 1 combination of AA etc into stove. you can do removal using "suit selection" Equilab is better as it shows card removal and #of combos
93% Sure!
Last edit: 26/01/2014 06:08
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SpasticInk   Sweden. Jan 26 2014 06:12. Posts 6298
I really dislike your sizing in this hand
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julep   Australia. Jan 26 2014 13:01. Posts 1274
bane would call
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jvilla777   Australia. Jan 26 2014 17:22. Posts 1348
thanx for the feed back homeys.
lemon u seem really smart when it comes to poker theory and maths no doubt you will crush.
Spas, other betsize options?
edit: My pokerstove has been expired and where can I find a new one to download from?
longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality!