decision is whether to raise another 120? its close... i might flat or raise depending on my mood and specific reads

raise as bluff right?

no, for value vs random A's or 2pairs. i doubt he's folding better then A7 with those odds

which 2 pairs that we beat are we expecting to see on the river? he bets almost full pot....

K3s i guess. lol. A3c if somehow..

yeah villain def not potting with these

we only lose to QT and random diamonds, and maybe AJ so i don't like a fold, esp since our hand doesnt look strong due to the turn check. leaning more towards a call now, unless hes someone who never bluffs

whats our range here? i'd imagine we have a ton of busted draws, and only QT or random diamonds for value (maybe AJ). sounds like his range ;o

well 6max on stars, people very rarely bluff lol,
actually I think anybody who isn't willing to play 3-4 handed with regs and will only play with a huge fish at the table is probably never going to run any big bluffs

yeah, it's very player dependent

its just that if i had a hand like T9s in his spot i might not be able to help myself, though i might bet smaller

On February 10 2014 00:58 fira wrote: no, for value vs random A's or 2pairs. i doubt he's folding better then A7 with those odds

info on villain??

i def wouldnt ever raise lol

its really close btwn a fold and a call depends on my actual instinct

Can we shove turn?

On February 10 2014 06:13 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Can we shove turn?

only if you are isildur

bad raise pre. easy call river imo.

eh, hard to say bad raise pre. but i prefer other hands (would rather have for instance K9o K6s Q8s 54s 96s than A7o, im not positive on this from the cutoff, i see merits to raising A7o instead but it just flops so shitty and is a bad hand to face even smallish 3bets with), and i think cutoff raise, even when minraising, should definitely be under 30%. too hard to follow up with a decent % of your range vs 3bets otherwise. when i go through hands, A7o is right about my 30th percentile to raise from cutoff.

yeah could argue for a fold pre, was kinda auto piloting pre, usually it's a fine loose open if there's a fish in one of the 3 seats on my left

On February 10 2014 06:29 dnagardi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2014 06:13 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Can we shove turn? only if you are isildur

his range is KJ, heavily discounted JJ one combo of quads and then mostly draws/ pair+draw why would shoving turn be bad vs that

pretty sure he's jamming KJ on flop

jamming turn may actually not be that bad

I don't know but it seems like a call when we don't really know what to do. Not sure if he can have QT and just decided to raise flop for mindfuckingvalue and then clicked call when you 3b. Looks like AJ or backdoor flush for sure, not expecting people to do this for thin value but maybe he would.

Shoving a pair of 7 on turn sounds kinna crazy to me, just like jamming this river. Anyway did you call? I'm kinna curious.