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Handnr: 1030366
Submitted by : skirmisher

PokerStars Hand #112613858700: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2014/03/01 17:21:53 ET
Table Rupertwildt IV 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Kotzen26 ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Depeche169 ($4.91 in chips)
Seat 3: Duriel66 ($5.76 in chips)
Seat 4: $1Vegeta8$ ($12.86 in chips)
Seat 5: Pajas717 ($2.42 in chips)
Seat 6: marep100 ($3.88 in chips)
Seat 7: pudGG ($2.92 in chips)
Seat 8: jkelol ($6.30 in chips)
$1Vegeta8$: posts small blind $0.02
Pajas717: posts big blind $0.05
unameztrue: sits out

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to pudGG JhKh
marep100: folds
pudGG: raises $0.12 to $0.17
jkelol: folds
Kotzen26: folds
Depeche169: folds
Duriel66: folds
$1Vegeta8$: folds
Pajas717: calls $0.12

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.36)

   Ac8hKd
Pajas717: bets $0.20
pudGG: calls $0.20

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $0.76)

   Ac8hKd3c
Pajas717: bets $0.45
pudGG: calls $0.45

River (Pot : $1.66)

   Ac8hKd3c2s
Pajas717: bets $0.70
pudGG: raises $1.40 to $2.10 and is all-in
Pajas717: calls $0.90 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.50) returned to pudGG

Showdown
pudGG: shows JhKh (a pair of Kings)
Pajas717: shows 6cAh (a pair of Aces)
Pajas717 collected $4.66 from pot

Summary
Total pot $4.86 | Rake $0.20
Board  Ac8hKd3c2s
Seat 1: Kotzen26 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Depeche169 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Duriel66 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: $1Vegeta8$ (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Pajas717 (big blind) showed 6cAh and won ($4.66) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: marep100 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: pudGG showed JhKh and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: jkelol folded before Flop (didnt bet)


Was going for the long bluff here since an ace showed up on the flop so I was thinking about calling him down to the river and raising him there (even though i had small stack he bet low so allinning actually gave him some odds), did he do a mistake? Out of 10 hands he played 4 (which isnt really a perfect indicator of a loose player since its only 10 games but still)

What do I do in these situations? I was looking for better draws after the flop but didnt really find anything, should I fold postflop? (I normally fold preflop here because early pos but wanted to mix it up a little, pretend like Im button please)

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jvilla777   Australia. Mar 01 2014 17:47. Posts 1348

what are you repping by the river?

you can fold turn if ur hand does not improve

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longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Trav94   Canada. Mar 01 2014 17:55. Posts 1789

Why are you trying to bluff a fish


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 01 2014 18:10. Posts 15163

fold turn

93% Sure!  

skirmisher   Sweden. Mar 01 2014 18:31. Posts 103

I know this play is retarded, still trying stuff out, but is it legit to call flop? What's the point by calling flop, I have like no outs on the turn anyway?

New player, advice appreciated 

lhr0909   China. Mar 01 2014 18:37. Posts 423


  On March 01 2014 17:31 skirmisher wrote:
I know this play is retarded, still trying stuff out, but is it legit to call flop? What's the point by calling flop, I have like no outs on the turn anyway?



Well, you didn't know that at the time, and I think it is okay to call flop as played, but just fold turn is what everyone is trying to say.

If devon is here and this is my hand, he would have told me to stop playing like this

no pain no gain 

skirmisher   Sweden. Mar 01 2014 19:17. Posts 103


  On March 01 2014 17:37 lhr0909 wrote:
Show nested quote +



Well, you didn't know that at the time, and I think it is okay to call flop as played, but just fold turn is what everyone is trying to say.

But it must be -ev to call flop right? What am I trying to achieve with it? EDIT: I get it


  On March 01 2014 17:37 lhr0909 wrote:If devon is here and this is my hand, he would have told me to stop playing like this


Would devon also say that I shouldn't play JKs preflop like this? And when is it accepted to play JKs (like what could be my plan with the hand)?

New player, advice appreciatedLast edit: 02/03/2014 05:12

K40Cheddar   United States. Mar 01 2014 22:58. Posts 2202

I think calling flop is fine if he's leading out with missed hands and value hands. Once he bets turn I I'd fold.

GG 

player999   Brasil. Mar 02 2014 00:44. Posts 7978


  On March 01 2014 18:17 skirmisher wrote:
But it must be -ev to call flop right? What am I trying to achieve with it?



you have the best hand when he doesnt have the ace

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

lhr0909   China. Mar 02 2014 05:19. Posts 423


  On March 01 2014 18:17 skirmisher wrote:
Show nested quote +


But it must be -ev to call flop right? What am I trying to achieve with it? EDIT: I get it


  On March 01 2014 17:37 lhr0909 wrote:If devon is here and this is my hand, he would have told me to stop playing like this


Would devon also say that I shouldn't play JKs preflop like this? And when is it accepted to play JKs (like what could be my plan with the hand)?



Opening KJs on UTG+1 seems just a little bit loose (just to me though, but to be fair it is still in top 10% range according to PokerStove, so I think you are good pre).. I think you should expect people would call with an ace in later positions.

no pain no gainLast edit: 02/03/2014 05:21

dnagardi   Hungary. Mar 02 2014 05:23. Posts 1777

1. buy in 100bb
2. never bluff at nl5


 

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