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punix   Germany. Mar 04 2014 10:53. Posts 406 | | |
do i fold this pre 100% ? |
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punix   Germany. Mar 04 2014 10:54. Posts 406 | | |
heinnn was somewaht 30/20 over only 15hands and the sexxymartin was a typical reg nit so i think that his 3betting range (3.8%) contains also alot of AK type hands. |
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cariadon   Estonia. Mar 04 2014 15:44. Posts 4019 | | |
I'd be happy to play for stacks with JJ at 5nl and expect a fatty profit doing so. Folding it preflop, to me, is wrong.
Don't be caught up on ranges, learn the game by playing more hands and paying attention to which hands are shown down when. If everyone was good they wouldn't be playing 5nl. |
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player999   Brasil. Mar 04 2014 16:29. Posts 7978 | | |
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Trav94   Canada. Mar 04 2014 16:48. Posts 1789 | | |
| On March 04 2014 14:44 cariadon wrote:
I'd be happy to play for stacks with JJ at 5nl and expect a fatty profit doing so. |
This is just wrong. Maybe this is true back in 2007, but the average 5NL player today is only playing for 100bb stacks pre w/ QQ+/AK generally. They are so passive, they'll just flat 3bets pre generally with anything worse. |
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cariadon   Estonia. Mar 04 2014 20:06. Posts 4019 | | |
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Trav94   Canada. Mar 04 2014 23:29. Posts 1789 | | |
Not saying it doesnt happen. But more often then not, you run into a bigger hand then JJ playing for stacks pre. |
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punix   Germany. Mar 05 2014 03:30. Posts 406 | | |
iam quite sure that the preflop 3better has AK here thats why he cbet/folds
and i made the xp on the lowstakes that check, raising big on the flop (especially multiway) is more than 85% a set.
especially given that he minraised first and then called the 3b it pretty much looks like a small pcoket pair or a really big pair that was slowplayed and in either case my Jacks are bad now. |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 05 2014 04:11. Posts 9634 | | |
Apart from PF where best option could be discussed flop s fine. |
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punix   Germany. Mar 05 2014 04:39. Posts 406 | | |
yea thats why i asked if "you" would fold this pre?! |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 05 2014 07:53. Posts 15163 | | |
I dunno here PF
I fold vs normal size but heinn likely not on Sauce's level and the odds aight so calling should be okay.
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ilbh   Brasil. Mar 05 2014 10:08. Posts 275 | | |
don't you have to raise PF? lol and I thought I was a nit
edit: just making sure this is a question rather than an advice, im a noob |
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Daut   United States. Mar 05 2014 12:23. Posts 8955 | | |
we have a bluffcatcher pre that doesnt flop particularly well postflop. always an uncomfortable spot. youll get a feel for how often you need them to "have it" for you to start putting money in. id probably fold this at low stakes without solid info on 3bettor being wide here |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Mar 05 2014 19:16. Posts 20070 | | |
when in doubt and you have the worst possible position folding is fine
when in doubt but you have position its okay to continue |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 05 2014 19:27. Posts 15163 | | |
| On March 05 2014 18:16 TalentedTom wrote:
when in doubt and you have the worst possible position folding is fine
when in doubt but you have position its okay to continue |
amen |
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punix   Germany. Mar 06 2014 06:25. Posts 406 | | |
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