im KAWLIN unless i have good info to do otherwise

don't we have the worse hand to call with though?

no the worse hand to call with here is 23o

On March 05 2014 14:24 MezmerizePLZ wrote: im KAWLIN unless i have good info to do otherwise

agree, this is his last chance at an equity jam and well, i assume you are over 5% 3b and have a balanced 3bet range from the sb vs lp openers...

and hes sitting on 370 instead of 400, i laugh at his JQ, 98, Tx, KJ hands way to often to fold

all of these hands would flat turn

This is so weird in villain's spot what's your turn raising range Fayth?
Some people said you are arrogant so prolly won't disclose your full raising and calling range tho

On March 05 2014 17:37 LemOn[5thF] wrote: This is so weird in villain's spot what's your turn raising range Fayth? Some people said you are arrogant so prolly won't disclose your full raising and calling range tho

B+ on Machiavellianism
there's room for more subtlety

I just rly wanna know what Fayth does.
Had to use that even tho I had no clue what was all the stuff about Fayth in that thread; he seems like a rly nice guy to me.
But I rly wanna know any means necessary as he didn't reply last time when I asked about what range he had :D

like really I dont raise turns ever but wanna do it so I can flat more 3bets v good regs :D

On March 05 2014 18:32 LemOn[5thF] wrote: I just rly wanna know what Fayth does. Had to use that even tho I had no clue what was all the stuff about Fayth in that thread; he seems like a rly nice guy to me. But I rly wanna know any means necessary as he didn't reply last time when I asked about what range he had :D

lol it's ok I'm with you on this
idk why anyone would ever shove the turn like this tbh

On March 05 2014 15:33 GoldRush wrote: and hes sitting on 370 instead of 400, i laugh at his JQ, 98, Tx, KJ hands way to often to fold

fayth has jj...

On March 05 2014 14:27 Fayth wrote: don't we have the worse hand to call with though?

it blocks some of his traight draws but its definitelly way better than any Tx you could have there even AT

How is this hand better than AT? although with no reads I'd be quick to click call, if you had some necessary info, it becomes a quick muck. Most of the regs don't even construct a shoving range on turn so its quite possible that the villain is playing exploitable

On March 05 2014 20:25 AndrewSong wrote: How is this hand better than AT? although with no reads I'd be quick to click call, if you had some necessary info, it becomes a quick muck. Most of the regs don't even construct a shoving range on turn so its quite possible that the villain is playing exploitable

The fact that with JJ you are crushing AT (and splitting to with JJ) instead of splittting (and losing) definitelly has a bigger impact equity wise against his range than the combos of draws we block.

On March 05 2014 14:54 MezmerizePLZ wrote: no the worse hand to call with here is 23o

wtf

On March 05 2014 20:41 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2014 20:25 AndrewSong wrote: How is this hand better than AT? although with no reads I'd be quick to click call, if you had some necessary info, it becomes a quick muck. Most of the regs don't even construct a shoving range on turn so its quite possible that the villain is playing exploitable The fact that with JJ you are crushing AT (and splitting to with JJ) instead of splittting (and losing) definitelly has a bigger impact equity wise against his range than the combos of draws we block.

Your assumptions are only true if he does in fact slow play JJ and shove top pair on the turn. He might not be doing both

I don't think I have a raising range in villain's spot on this particular board texture fwiw

oh and as Andrew said I called fairly quickly since I had no read except villain was from India so probably not so competent, but I know that fishes usually tend to call with their weaker holdings on the turn and raise their nuts

On March 05 2014 21:00 AndrewSong wrote: Show nested quote + On March 05 2014 20:41 Baalim wrote:   On March 05 2014 20:25 AndrewSong wrote: How is this hand better than AT? although with no reads I'd be quick to click call, if you had some necessary info, it becomes a quick muck. Most of the regs don't even construct a shoving range on turn so its quite possible that the villain is playing exploitable The fact that with JJ you are crushing AT (and splitting to with JJ) instead of splittting (and losing) definitelly has a bigger impact equity wise against his range than the combos of draws we block. Your assumptions are only true if he does in fact slow play JJ and shove top pair on the turn. He might not be doing both

the JJ factor is minimal, the AT factor its pretty big, and how in the fuck are we supposed to know exactly if he might or might not, im talking about general, so unless you have a superb read that he never shoves AT on the turn then JJ worse obv, but we dont, so JJ is better

Isnt JJ really bad mainly because he blocks half of the str8 draw combos ? or that doesnt do much impact

you called and what did he show?

On March 06 2014 03:39 Spitfiree wrote: Isnt JJ really bad mainly because he blocks half of the str8 draw combos ? or that doesnt do much impact

do you even read the comments lol

stand pat on instacall without a reason for it not to be an insta call.

same reason i don't 3bet without a reason.

same reason i don't bluff fish.

i just think your range is/should be so much wider than JJ on this board, that JJ is pretty slam dunkish in the vast majority of the scenario's.

With stats, this would have been a pretty good thread though, or if you share your history with the villian.

As a random hand tho, dictation is call, posting is semi troll leveling?

lol this guy

u should call more people out. lp is boring these days