Villain is 59/3 fish. Haven't seen what he donk shoves with like this before. He doesn't seem over aggro. I expect to see straights a lot here when he shoves into 4 people but he can also have overpairs and 2 pair type hands. Is anyone folding here?

Are you fucking kidding me?

man u should probably work on your game a bit VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 26737

On March 10 2014 02:02 r0mx0 wrote: man u should probably work on your game a bit VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 26737

I am playing this style because these games are full of fish. I don't play the same way in tougher games.

On March 10 2014 02:29 lazymej wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 02:02 r0mx0 wrote: man u should probably work on your game a bit VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 26737 I am playing this style because these games are full of fish. I don't play the same way in tougher games.

sorry but if this isnt an obvious snap call for you you are already in a though game, definitelly your pf numbers are bad

All I'm asking is for opinions on the hand, not about whether you guys think I'm good or bad in my games lol.

feels to me that villain could have A5. I would like to know the reasoning behind the calling, since pot odds weren't great, at all

On March 10 2014 03:24 lazymej wrote: All I'm asking is for opinions on the hand, not about whether you guys think I'm good or bad in my games lol.

Your over preflop play is bad, i dont care if you are good or bad in any games.

On March 10 2014 03:38 lhr0909 wrote: feels to me that villain could have A5. I would like to know the reasoning behind the calling, since pot odds weren't great, at all

Villain is a huge whale. He is doing this with shit like 55+, random 2 pairs, a set, maybe even 4x, Ax, 5x, and yes, A5. How many of those hands beat us?

If you arent celebrating when a 60bb obvious fish does this to you, you got the wrong mindset. Ok so he got the straight this time, Trav94s range + a bunch of flushdraws is much more likely.

On March 10 2014 06:45 Balzamon wrote: If you arent celebrating when a 60bb obvious fish does this to you, you got the wrong mindset. Ok so he got the straight this time, Trav94s range + a bunch of flushdraws is much more likely.

this...
if he has a straight good for him you still have good equity, but if he has something stupid/drawing you are making a huge mistake by folding

Snap-call and dance, don't be results oriented.

You can theoretically fold this if you are 100% sure he only does this with a straight, but you don't know that.

Remember, he is a FISH, he plays terrible and hemorrhages money.

What's wrong with his stats? Too tight?

On March 10 2014 02:02 r0mx0 wrote: man u should probably work on your game a bit VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 26737

Funny, coming from you

22/14 shows me that you're not attacking blinds when it's folded to you on the button.

You're not isolating fish IP with marginal hands.

I mean, ya, playing nitty can net money, but it's certainly not optimal unless you're on like 12+ tables.

AF too low, 3B too low, the spread between vpip too large.

And the stats don't matter that much, you can have 24/19 and be awesome, have the same stat and be really poo

Sorry for my rude comment. Yeah, this is a snapakangaroodunkathontroncall. I just get tilted when people throw up hands that are obviously a call/whatever, but they question it because they're being results oriented.

You do have skewed pfr compared to typical winners. Goose wrote a good post explaining whats up with that.

Sometimes you're just destined to lose big pots, such is life.

he made an even worse play with AA a few hands below

On March 10 2014 11:36 player999 wrote: he made an even worse play with AA a few hands below

Also making it 86c with 33 utg and 1.05 with AA utg+1, whats up with that?

bunch of jerks ITT lolol

Thanks to those that answered my question and for not talking to me like I'm some kind of peasant.

I call without thinking too much about it in a spot like this vs villain. I just recently started playing poker again after a long hiatus and just wanted to hear other's viewpoints to make sure I'm on the right track. Yes, I know his value range is larger than straights and if he has the latter I still have good equity. Yes, I know he can have some retarded hands here. Yes, I have a brain and am snap calling. Apparently by asking a question just to hear some thoughts about a spot, I get plenty of opinions about how terrible I am instead lol.

Maybe you guys are right that I am bad, but I've never claimed to be an amazing player.

On March 10 2014 11:36 player999 wrote: he made an even worse play with AA a few hands below

Feel free to elaborate about how awful my play was. Some kittens probably died because I played the way I did, and I made Jesus cry, etc, etc

On March 10 2014 11:04 devon06atX wrote: Sorry for my rude comment. Yeah, this is a snapakangaroodunkathontroncall. I just get tilted when people throw up hands that are obviously a call/whatever, but they question it because they're being results oriented. You do have skewed pfr compared to typical winners. Goose wrote a good post explaining whats up with that. Sometimes you're just destined to lose big pots, such is life.

I appreciate the apology.

results?

On March 10 2014 03:38 lhr0909 wrote: feels to me that villain could have A5.

We have a winner.

On March 10 2014 15:42 lazymej wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 03:38 lhr0909 wrote: feels to me that villain could have A5. We have a winner.

my bad

On March 10 2014 09:12 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 02:02 r0mx0 wrote: man u should probably work on your game a bit VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 26737 Funny, coming from you

yea i am not the greatest but i dont give advice higher than i play...this actually is higher than i play now but i can say i am better player even when i am at nl 10-16. This guy probably doesnt even win and if he does its just a run. With this style it wouldnt be profitable to play nl 10 at stars. It is just waste of time to play like this and invest my 26737 which has to be some decent hours cause on Boos people do not multitable that much.I feel like ai am looking at me from 5 years ago.

On March 10 2014 15:28 lazymej wrote: Thanks to those that answered my question and for not talking to me like I'm some kind of peasant. I call without thinking too much about it in a spot like this vs villain. I just recently started playing poker again after a long hiatus and just wanted to hear other's viewpoints to make sure I'm on the right track. Yes, I know his value range is larger than straights and if he has the latter I still have good equity. Yes, I know he can have some retarded hands here. Yes, I have a brain and am snap calling. Apparently by asking a question just to hear some thoughts about a spot, I get plenty of opinions about how terrible I am instead lol. Maybe you guys are right that I am bad, but I've never claimed to be an amazing player. Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 11:36 player999 wrote: he made an even worse play with AA a few hands below Feel free to elaborate about how awful my play was. Some kittens probably died because I played the way I did, and I made Jesus cry, etc, etc

you had the nuts and bet preflop, flop and turn, so pretty obv its the river that is bad, easiest shove of all time

this hand reminds me of that kid in class who at the end reminds the teacher she forgot to assign us homework

On March 10 2014 17:39 TalentedTom wrote: this hand reminds me of that kid in class who at the end reminds the teacher she forgot to assign us homework

lol.

Anyone else want to hop on the bash lazymej bandwagon? Go ahead and do it while you still have the chance, before it gets bumped off the Hands pane.

lol at all the random hate this hand is getting, sure it's a call but it's not exactly common to get shoved into for 5x the pot on this flop, and there's nothing wrong with stepping back making sure you made the right play in such a bizarre spot. seriously have you guys looked at the hh section, people have been posting worse hands than this everyday lol.

On March 10 2014 17:50 bigredhoss wrote: lol at all the random hate this hand is getting, sure it's a call but it's not exactly common to get shoved into for 5x the pot on this flop, and there's nothing wrong with stepping back making sure you made the right play in such a bizarre spot. seriously have you guys looked at the hh section, people have been posting worse hands than this everyday lol.

what's the point in posting hands where you know you are right tho besides boosting ego? Posting hands you didn't play badly or are unsure of is illogical

(Preparing ground for the rest of the month/ In case someone asks why I post retarded hands only. It's because people tilt and play non nosebleeds stakes in the firts place you dillhole :D)

i'm not sure what point you're trying to make but i assume op didn't "know" he was right about this hand or he wouldn't have posted it.

On March 10 2014 17:50 bigredhoss wrote: lol at all the random hate this hand is getting, sure it's a call but it's not exactly common to get shoved into for 5x the pot on this flop, and there's nothing wrong with stepping back making sure you made the right play in such a bizarre spot. seriously have you guys looked at the hh section, people have been posting worse hands than this everyday lol.

Thank you.

And Lemon posting this hand has got absolutely zero to do with anything about ego. Maybe it could be good for pleasure, if you're masochistic and enjoy being berated

On March 10 2014 18:38 lazymej wrote: And Lemon posting this hand has got absolutely zero to do with anything about ego. Maybe it could be good for pleasure, if you're masochistic and enjoy being berated

you sluts dont get me, I'm critiquing the critics - as OP is unsure this is the hand he should post. When someone asks a question and people reply "lol why post this so obvious" now that's dumb.

in that case i agree with your assessment of the situation

On March 10 2014 19:02 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 18:38 lazymej wrote: And Lemon posting this hand has got absolutely zero to do with anything about ego. Maybe it could be good for pleasure, if you're masochistic and enjoy being berated you sluts dont get me, I'm critiquing the critics - as OP is unsure this is the hand he should post. When someone asks a question and people reply "lol why post this so obvious" now that's dumb.

Sarcasm doesn't tend to carry well through text

On March 10 2014 16:53 r0mx0 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2014 09:12 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote:   On March 10 2014 02:02 r0mx0 wrote: man u should probably work on your game a bit VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 3, AF: 2.0, Hands: 26737 Funny, coming from you yea i am not the greatest but i dont give advice higher than i play...this actually is higher than i play now but i can say i am better player even when i am at nl 10-16. This guy probably doesnt even win and if he does its just a run. With this style it wouldnt be profitable to play nl 10 at stars. It is just waste of time to play like this and invest my 26737 which has to be some decent hours cause on Boos people do not multitable that much.I feel like ai am looking at me from 5 years ago.

-sincerely, NL10 reg

^Wow thanks for quoting that redrain. Totally missed that reply.

r0mx0 thanks for the wonderful dose of humor. This is really the best thing I've read all day. I already said why my preflop stats over this sample are where they are but I feel no obligation to justify it to you because you have no clue how these games play.

But what do I know, I'm just a Boss Media fish who is on a hot run and "can't beat 10NL on Stars". Just kidding. I crush PS 10NL all day and no one really gives a shit that you think you're better than me. I bet you are. But I didn't spend 5 years at 10NL. I must be on a run

But thanks for stopping by and for giving me a good chuckle.

On March 10 2014 16:53 r0mx0 wrote: yea i am not the greatest but i dont give advice higher than i play...this actually is higher than i play now

Except you are...lol.

On March 10 2014 16:53 r0mx0 wrote: but i can say i am better player even when i am at nl 10-16. This guy probably doesnt even win and if he does its just a run.

Jumping to conclusions when you know absolutely nothing about me. If I say you are the better player will you feel better about yourself? I can do it, I don't mind.

we sir GL