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Handnr: 1033976
Submitted by : the cleaner

PokerStars Hand #115466561293: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2014/04/29 7:55:05 ET
Table Bohemia II 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bustafc ($192.48 in chips)
Seat 2: annethebull ($47.43 in chips)
Seat 3: elfeggg ($116.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Aibudlaik ($40.75 in chips)
Seat 6: the clêaner ($101.50 in chips)
elfeggg: posts small blind $0.50
Aibudlaik: posts big blind $1
Tachyon1: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to the clêaner JhJs
the clêaner: raises $1.50 to $2.50
bustafc: calls $2.50
annethebull: calls $2.50
elfeggg: folds
Aibudlaik: folds

Flop (Pot : $9.00)

   5c2dQh
the clêaner: bets $4.50
bustafc: calls $4.50
annethebull: folds

Turn (Pot : $18.00)

   5c2dQh9s
the clêaner: checks
bustafc: checks

River (Pot : $18.00)

   5c2dQh9sKs
the clêaner: bets $12.89
bustafc: raises $19.11 to $32
the clêaner: raises $62.50 to $94.50 and is all-in

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the cleaner   Germany. Apr 29 2014 08:09. Posts 3014

villain is 23/19/2.7 winning reg, decent hand reader.

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there are no facts only interpretations 

lebowski   Greece. Apr 29 2014 08:19. Posts 9205

u rep too thin and he reps a slowplay

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

lebowski   Greece. Apr 29 2014 08:22. Posts 9205

also at least half your 10Js should barel turn, so u rep even less

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 29 2014 08:40. Posts 15163

What value hands do you play this way?

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the cleaner   Germany. Apr 29 2014 08:57. Posts 3014


  On April 29 2014 07:19 lebowski wrote:
u rep too thin and he reps a slowplay



to me it looks exactly like KQ, cause i expect him to value bet his sets on turn.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 29/04/2014 09:01

the cleaner   Germany. Apr 29 2014 09:00. Posts 3014


  On April 29 2014 07:40 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
What value hands do you play this way?



JT, maybe KK sometimes. But to me it looked like a spot where villain shouldn't expect me to bluff, or value bet worse, even if it looks like i could have such a narrow range.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 29/04/2014 09:02

HotChip   Iceland. Apr 29 2014 10:02. Posts 146

I hope you're not seriously trying to take him off KQ here. If he has KQ he blocks KK and i would assume he thinks you barrel sets and JT on turn (as you should).

All war is based on deception - Sun Tzu 

whamm!   Albania. Apr 29 2014 11:02. Posts 11625

so kq from a good player wont fold here?


HotChip   Iceland. Apr 29 2014 11:38. Posts 146

It depends obv, but I think a GTO player (if one would exist) would call here.

My point is, if hero thinks villain has KQ specifically (not some other 2par or Kx), I think a bluff is not worth it because villain is very high in his range.

All war is based on deception - Sun Tzu 

lebowski   Greece. Apr 29 2014 12:33. Posts 9205


  On April 29 2014 07:57 the cleaner wrote:
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to me it looks exactly like KQ, cause i expect him to value bet his sets on turn.



I included KQo to the slowplays, I meant someone who decides to chk tp good kicker on the turn, fearing only Ace rivers to lose action, if he expects to only get 2 streets anyway
I don't see how you can exclude all combos of sets because tbh I see people checking them often in position (eg with QQ in this spot)
That is a super strong range to bluff vs imo, if he can handread you are in even a worse spot. Agreed most people don't bluff like this here ever, so he could give you a lot of credit and he could also be turning something into a bluff never expecting you to play back vs what he reps, but in general it's not a good idea to rep 2 value combos max,especially when your good opponent would feel obliged to call down because he feels he capped his range on the turn

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

the cleaner   Germany. Apr 29 2014 12:38. Posts 3014

especially when your good opponent would feel obliged to call down because he feels he capped his range on the turn

good point

there are no facts only interpretations 

ggplz   Sweden. Apr 30 2014 02:54. Posts 16784

ur repping like 55/99/QQ that trapped turn? ur betting JT on turn almost always

why even bet riv? just curious

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