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Handnr: 1036122
Submitted by : Samsara

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** IPoker
€50.00 EUR NL Texas Holdem - Monday, June 02, 01:10:43 ET 2014
Table Premium Table 18g Real Money
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 €63.53 EUR - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 3, AF: 2,9, Hands: 5928
Seat 3: Hero €50.45 EUR - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 1,2, Hands: 42334
Seat 6: Player6 €69.24 EUR - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 2,1, Hands: 7986
Seat 8: Player8 €22.35 EUR - VPIP: 42, PFR: 23, 3B: 9, AF: 1,9, Hands: 231
Player6 posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Player8 posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to HeroTcKc
Player1 raises [€1.50 EUR]
Hero calls [€1.50 EUR]
Player6 raises [€5.75 EUR]
Player8 folds
Player1 folds
Hero calls [€4.50 EUR]

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.00)

   3h5cTd
Player6 bets [€8.50 EUR]
Hero calls [€8.50 EUR]

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   3h5cTd9c
Player6 bets [€21.70 EUR]
Hero ?

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GoldRush   United States. Jun 02 2014 14:18. Posts 1025

100bb deep v utg - pf call is questionable.

calling the 3bet is lighting the $ vs 6% 3bet.

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Samsara   Bulgaria. Jun 02 2014 14:30. Posts 69

It is 4-handed.

Never hate your enemies, it affects you judgment. 

GoldRush   United States. Jun 02 2014 18:19. Posts 1025

ah whoops, i fold in general and get it in with reason.


cariadon   Estonia. Jun 02 2014 20:32. Posts 4019

i click buttons and find justifications when i want to gamble


Nitewin   United States. Jun 02 2014 22:07. Posts 1552

call, call or jam. you have dream turn, you can't fold unless the player you're against never ever bluffs. I guess it depends on your read on the villain but if you have this dynamic, you call.


fira   United States. Jun 03 2014 00:25. Posts 6345

cbet stats could be helpful

some players have really high flop cbet and then totally shutdown on turn - something like 90/25/100 (cbflop/cbturn/cbriver) while others don't stop barreling once they've begun, like 67/100/100.

anyway i probably wouldnt fold here vs anyone, we have decent equity vs anything


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 03 2014 03:24. Posts 15163

Only turn question is if we shove or call - hes got some what 17 left lol?
if he's got just say 50% JJ, 100%QQ+ and AcQc and never folds to shove the shove's -ev barely, we need some 34% have 32%

prolly shove vs anyone semi- normal, call turn fold rag river against nits that never bluff+never fold to shove

93% Sure! Last edit: 03/06/2014 03:59

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 03 2014 03:35. Posts 15163

preflop's meh

say he does some 7% polarized
I mean
Equity Win Tie
MP2 61.61% 61.21% 0.39% { JJ+, AJs+, A5s-A2s, KQs, 87s, 76s, 65s, AQo+ }
MP3 38.39% 38.00% 0.39% { KcTc }

EDIT: oops P1 folds before we act - I was cutting 8.5% off for when he 4bets but we know he folded already before we call



It'll be hardish to realize that 87%+ equity postflop without reads and initiative and with strong domination issues, even IP imo - I'd call pre only if he has some postflop leaks.

I'm not really all that sure tho on a good method to arrive at the %equity you realize when ranges are tighter. E.g. BUvBB when you peel in BB you can just look at the odds of flopping TP, draws etc. and go from there - but in this spot domination becomes an issue and hurts our post flop EV. It's hard to estimate exactly to what extent though.

Only other mathematical method I'm aware of for PF calling ranges is the nemesis approach where you defend X% range to deny him profit so you defend X% of your range. It's 3way here tho - P1 and BB comes into play, and you need to know his R too for when you see flop. Also 6% 3bettor will 3b sub optimally tight too so I'd really just call whatever hands are +ev and exploitively fold the rest. Which most likely includes KTs as a fold?

93% Sure! Last edit: 03/06/2014 04:08

Samsara   Bulgaria. Jun 03 2014 06:28. Posts 69

Great analysis LemOn[5thF]

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jun 03 2014 09:09. Posts 20070

Did someone say Nemesis?

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