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Handnr: 1036305 Submitted by : gitpush
PokerStars Hand #117184092362: Holdem No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2014/06/06 8:26:46 PT [2014/06/06 11:26:46 ET]
Table Amneris 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FocusFTW ($2 in chips)
Seat 3: PAWELzMEXICO ($2.51 in chips)
Seat 4: JoJoVenture ($2.26 in chips)
Seat 5: GitPush ($2 in chips)
Seat 6: GameBoyPr ($5.56 in chips)
JoJoVenture: posts small blind $0.01
GitPush: posts big blind $0.02
Holecards(Odds) Dealt to GitPush
GameBoyPr: raises $0.04 to $0.06
FocusFTW: folds
PAWELzMEXICO: folds
JoJoVenture: calls $0.05
GitPush: calls $0.04
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $0.18)
JoJoVenture: bets $0.08
GitPush: calls $0.08
GameBoyPr: folds
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $0.34)
JoJoVenture: checks
GitPush: bets $0.24
JoJoVenture: calls $0.24
River (Pot : $0.82)
JoJoVenture: checks
GitPush: bets $1.62 and is all-in
JoJoVenture: calls $1.62
Showdown GitPush: shows (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
JoJoVenture: shows (a flush, Ace high)
JoJoVenture collected $3.92 from pot
Summary Total pot $4.06 | Rake $0.14
Board
Seat 1: FocusFTW folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: PAWELzMEXICO (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: JoJoVenture (small blind) showed and won ($3.92) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: GitPush (big blind) showed and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 6: GameBoyPr folded on the Flop
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gitpush   Australia. Jun 06 2014 11:39. Posts 62 | | |
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Syntax   United States. Jun 06 2014 11:42. Posts 4415 | | |
this hand is absurd. just check back and pot control turn. i dont mind betting but river is competely pointless, the only better hands that will fold are KT/AT and QQ-AA. You can make a thin value bet on the river but shoving accomplishes very little. no worse hands are going to call and you're rarely getting better hands to fold |
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gitpush   Australia. Jun 06 2014 12:20. Posts 62 | | |
| On June 06 2014 10:42 Syntax wrote:
this hand is absurd. just check back and pot control turn. i dont mind betting but river is competely pointless, the only better hands that will fold are KT/AT and QQ-AA. You can make a thin value bet on the river but shoving accomplishes very little. no worse hands are going to call and you're rarely getting better hands to fold |
i got a bit thrown off by his turn check. didn't take into account that he could have 2 clubs. He did take a long time tanking turn though. the bad streaks of luck didn't help here either.. |
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GoldRush   United States. Jun 06 2014 12:33. Posts 1025 | | |
betturn for value, river ur hand shrivelsalot, although u can thin value bet.
bet around .45, since u can have missed many hands, then fold to a shove. you can call a shove from a spazzy russian or whatever, but in general. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 06 2014 16:11. Posts 15163 | | |
I prefer a bet on turn at nl2. It's decent vs regs at NL10 actually they play face up mostly bet all fds but not NL2
not sure what u're doing on the river
you block Tx that you are targeting with that, no J is folding at NL2 I assume |
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93% Sure! | Last edit: 06/06/2014 16:17 |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 06 2014 16:16. Posts 15163 | | |
For stats
1)Cbet less flop, less OOP on turn, more on the turn IP
2) 3bet more all positions
3) open way more buttons, more cut offs
4) cold call less |
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93% Sure! | Last edit: 06/06/2014 16:18 |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 06 2014 16:18. Posts 15163 | | |
actually if you raise so little huge cbet% is good I guess, fucking Barry Greenstein style
thats why your redline goes up |
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93% Sure! | Last edit: 06/06/2014 16:19 |
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fira   United States. Jun 06 2014 21:43. Posts 6345 | | |
the river shove:
lets see so if he has a worse hand, checkback and shove are the same to us (assuming he never calls with worse), so we discount those situations
what matters is what he does with better hands; he'd have to fold over 67% (?) of the time for it to be profitable, since we are overbetting 2x pot
we win $0.8 two-thirds of the time and lose $1.6 one-third of the time.
then we try to define his river range, find the hands that beat us, and guess how often he's folding those... which is very player dependent
most of the time i just checkback river figuring i'm likely good and theres little value in betting |
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