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Handnr: 1036723
Submitted by : Wtf.NotMe

PokerStars Hand #117489162243: Omaha Pot Limit (€0.05/€0.10 EUR) - 2014/06/13 23:46:52 CET [2014/06/13 17:46:52 ET]
Table Scylla VI 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: xtrmall (€12.84 in chips)
Seat 2: MELOYEVOTO45 (€4.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (€18.78 in chips)
Seat 4: Gammanium (€10.09 in chips)
Seat 6: willpola (€3.75 in chips)
MELOYEVOTO45: posts small blind €0.05
Hero: posts big blind €0.10

Holecards
Dealt to Hero 2cJc2sJs
Gammanium: folds
willpola: folds
xtrmall: calls €0.10
MELOYEVOTO45: calls €0.05
Hero: raises €0.30 to €0.40
xtrmall: calls €0.30
MELOYEVOTO45: calls €0.30

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   Qh2d4c
MELOYEVOTO45: checks
Hero: bets €0.60
xtrmall: calls €0.60
MELOYEVOTO45: raises €2.94 to €3.54

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Wtf.NotMe   Spain. Jun 13 2014 17:53. Posts 49

Not sure about my preflop at all..
Can someone comment on that? Is that an OK to raise on a passive/calling station table?


As played - I don't see the a point in calling. So either raise or fold? I'm fairly certain that I'm basically drawing dead given the action but.. ?


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waga   United Kingdom. Jun 13 2014 18:10. Posts 2375

you want a low spr with your hand and flop is super straightforward ( you hit or miss hard) , raise is the good move.
flop , especially against a guy with 46 big blind who probably don't even know the rules of omaha , it's never a fold.


Wtf.NotMe   Spain. Jun 13 2014 18:14. Posts 49

What if we are playing against somebody who is semi-competent?


fira   United States. Jun 13 2014 20:20. Posts 6345

with those stax we can't fold regardless of who he is

i'd take most QQ combos out of their ranges since no one raised pre, so we are just looking at 44 that beats us. he'll have Q4, Q2, some wraps a lot more often

if he was full stacked unknown it'd be tough spot


waga   United Kingdom. Jun 13 2014 20:35. Posts 2375

QQ what ?
most QQ suck especially from the sb , a lot of fish love to limp with bad QQ tho
that's like saying for nlhe he can't have K3 on K hi board he limped preflop
that being said indeed I don't fold for 50bb , I don't fold for 100bb either against unknown (I always assume vilain suck ) and fold versus nit.
deep I hate my life


fira   United States. Jun 13 2014 20:39. Posts 6345

as a standard i'm raising all QQ on button, and a good amount of QQ from SB if button limps

i guess if they are fish they could have anything


waga   United Kingdom. Jun 13 2014 20:52. Posts 2375

lol of course you raise all QQ from button , you should not have a limping range from button and should raise almost any 4
Raising a good amount of QQ from sb is terrible , you're behind against top 50% (47% vs 53%) ... and OOP with a hand that play terribly OOP
that's not dramatic you isolate an obvious fish but there are way better hands for that.

Anyway discounting QQ from their range is a mistake , fish or not.


T8Suited   Canada. Jun 13 2014 23:33. Posts 1276

Very easy fold. When Ppl raise dry boards multiway in PLO they don't have only a set. They have top set.


GoldRush   United States. Jun 14 2014 00:13. Posts 1025

i fold. ur invested >10% stack


GoldRush   United States. Jun 14 2014 00:13. Posts 1025

less than 10% !


traxamillion   United States. Jun 14 2014 02:31. Posts 10468

If sb has non premium QQ here he should be limping


traxamillion   United States. Jun 14 2014 02:36. Posts 10468

Definitely not folding vs that shortstack's raise. Sure you may be beat but he has 2 pairs and wraps he can also raise and may be even wider depending on the player. Only way I fold is if I know he's a nit that won't make that move without a set.

keep in mind while it's a dry board it's also a great one to raise wraps and those combos outweigh set combos.


 

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