i am never going to play russian roulette

just fold pre

when learning coding u first learnt the basics. same for poker - first learn to play a solid game with the better starting hands, before doing shenanigans like this one.

whats wrong with his play

On August 22 2014 11:37 napoleono wrote: just fold pre when learning coding u first learnt the basics. same for poker - first learn to play a solid game with the better starting hands, before doing shenanigans like this one.

no offense but this is mind-bogglingly bad advice.

he played the hand perfectly, and everything is 100% basic ABC poker that should be standard from week #1 of learning the game, there's no "shenanigans".

edit - after noticing stacks maybe not so mind-boggling...but i still think hero's play is correct.

pedagogically i don't know that you learn more from folding pre vs playing a hand

On August 22 2014 11:37 napoleono wrote: just fold pre when learning coding u first learnt the basics. same for poker - first learn to play a solid game with the better starting hands, before doing shenanigans like this one.

On August 22 2014 14:05 bigredhoss wrote: no offense but this is mind-bogglingly bad advice. he played the hand perfectly, and everything is 100% basic ABC poker that should be standard from week #1 of learning the game, there's no "shenanigans".

I think both of you have got a good point. I really shouldn't have been calling this many 3bets lately. People with 56/23/0 stats kept limp/3bet with trash hands and I am really not sure what to do. I feel like even KTo is above what they are limp/3betting with so I went for it.

Recently my results have been very disappointing and I think I started doing something weird and lost more. This hurts my volume too. I only played 1/3 as much as I played last month. I had multiple -4bi sessions and I would just not want to play for a while..

pres fine if he 56/23
if he has PFR close to 0 and is rly passive then you can fold some, against heavily dominating range in that case.
But when he raises 23% hands and ain't passive he will ineviteably have thrash in his range when he does this and with them odds you have an easy call pre

On August 22 2014 18:26 lhr0909 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2014 11:37 napoleono wrote: just fold pre when learning coding u first learnt the basics. same for poker - first learn to play a solid game with the better starting hands, before doing shenanigans like this one.   On August 22 2014 14:05 bigredhoss wrote: no offense but this is mind-bogglingly bad advice. he played the hand perfectly, and everything is 100% basic ABC poker that should be standard from week #1 of learning the game, there's no "shenanigans". I think both of you have got a good point. I really shouldn't have been calling this many 3bets lately. People with 56/23/0 stats kept limp/3bet with trash hands and I am really not sure what to do. I feel like even KTo is above what they are limp/3betting with so I went for it. Recently my results have been very disappointing and I think I started doing something weird and lost more. This hurts my volume too. I only played 1/3 as much as I played last month. I had multiple -4bi sessions and I would just not want to play for a while..

how many total buyins are you down during this bad run and over how many hands? variance can just be a bitch sometimes.

just noticed the other guy's stack, dumb oversight by me and makes the hand closer. i still think your play was correct though.

I'm with lemon. If he's a passive dude w/ low to nil pfr, snap fold that shit. If he's a crazy fucking tart, then call or 4b. Whatever. People advocating a SNAP call from a limp/min-reraiser while holding k10 are a bit misinformed of villains tendencies at these stakes imo.

The more I analyze this, I realise what a fucking pointless conversation this all is. Of course you're calling this pre against a fucktard. Of course you're not vs a passive nit.

Next!

On August 22 2014 22:48 devon06atX wrote: I'm with lemon. If he's a passive dude w/ low to nil pfr, snap fold that shit. If he's a crazy fucking tart, then call or 4b. Whatever. People advocating a SNAP call from a limp/min-reraiser while holding k10 are a bit misinformed of villains tendencies at these stakes imo. The more I analyze this, I realise what a fucking pointless conversation this all is. Of course you're calling this pre against a fucktard. Of course you're not vs a passive nit. Next!

good poker really comes down to this most of the time

If he is 56/23,rather short stacked and capable of doing a lot of idiotic aggro limp reraise stuff,I would only raise his limp big with a hand you can push.
But with KT I would only minraise him,since that often leads to him reraising you pre very small and you getting great odds to just call and see the flop.