Ok, here's my thought process:

No reads/stats makes me sad
He limps, he's a fish
He c/c to the river, obvious draw or weak 1 pair type hand, occasionally 2 pair played bad
Fish c/r the river is scary
Fish can spazz more than a typical player
I'd value bet bigger against fish, make it look like I'm bluffing

He probably has us beat fairly frequently, but we have decent odds here, readless I'd probably call and take a note, but I wouldn't fault you for folding, I do think it's close

His hand looks like a straight to me, some weird rivered 2 pair, or busted flush draw.

On September 30 2014 12:24 goose58 wrote: Ok, here's my thought process: No reads/stats makes me sad He limps, he's a fish He c/c to the river, obvious draw or weak 1 pair type hand, occasionally 2 pair played bad Fish c/r the river is scary Fish can spazz more than a typical player I'd value bet bigger against fish, make it look like I'm bluffing He probably has us beat fairly frequently, but we have decent odds here, readless I'd probably call and take a note, but I wouldn't fault you for folding, I do think it's close His hand looks like a straight to me, some weird rivered 2 pair, or busted flush draw.

called and he had KJ oo
I'd folded if the river was more likely to give him 2p (K, Q, 8 prolly)

i like ck/call rather than bet river... he has tons of missed draws that can't see a showdown. also its hard to get value from worse hands

actually i like bet small river as well, mixing in missed draws into that range to cheaply push out his missed draws.

On September 30 2014 13:50 fira wrote: i like ck/call rather than bet river... he has tons of missed draws that can't see a showdown. also its hard to get value from worse hands actually i like bet small river as well, mixing in missed draws into that range to cheaply push out his missed draws.

villain is a fish, he limp/called

Pretty poor way to play KJ obviously, but that's what weaker players do, weird lines and inappropriate bets/sizings

Now if you had QJ, this guy looks like a genius.