Turn check / river sizing okay?
assume he a good reg, wanna play my range

rly unsure about the turn
that card is liek really bad for my fold equity

do I want to barrel fds Tx?


OTT all hearts peel
KT got there
0 broadways are folding
Jx I dunno most have gutter too
pretty much only fold equity with my range is against backdoor clubs and 77 88 perhaps?

So basically when I bet I wanna 3 barrel shitloads on rags

So the question is when I set up my range if I do want to 3 barrel all Tx hands, flush draws, or if I want to check some of them on the turn.

fds kinda suck to 3 barrel as I block his flush draws here tho. But on the other hand against his range 3 barrel is just too great to pass on even tho there's fuckall FE OTT?

The KQ kinda falls into that range - If I do want to have a 3 barrel strat and I have all FDs Tx then KQ should be there for sure as well. I checked cause I would give upa lot on this card and wanted to protect that part of my range.

That turn card is bad for your turn fold equity, but it's pretty decent for your actual equity. KT J9 Q9 and I guess T8 are the only hands we are worried about, but we get value from QT JT AT all flush draws maybe even a hand like AJ or KJ and whatever else he can have.

A turn bet with this hand also goes good with our range because we are going to have draws that we are going to want to barrel here

As played I like the river bet, but a c/c is viable as well especially if your opponent is bluffy because we hate to bet/fold this river and also we can bluff catch

I'd rather bet turn, check river, than check turn bet river. You get called by way more hands on the turn vs the river and on the river you represent way less bluffs. Stop worrying about setting up future plays vs regs in micros/low limits, do that in NL 200+. Just worry about maximizing the value of all your made hands taking advantage of obvious, exploitable situations situations.

Also if you're concerned about a 3-barrel strat, it really doesn't help showing the villain that you can't value bet a hand like this on the turn.

Also if this is early in the match I don't like 3 betting KQ offsuit right away and playing it as a bluff. I would just call and try to get to showdown a few times to try to build some reads (how light does villain call down? is villain aggressive with draws? etc.), or at least 3 bet it for value and play it post flop as such.

On October 14 2014 17:46 LikeASet wrote: I'd rather bet turn, check river, than check turn bet river. You get called by way more hands on the turn vs the river and on the river you represent way less bluffs. Stop worrying about setting up future plays vs regs in micros/low limits, do that in NL 200+. Just worry about maximizing the value of all your made hands taking advantage of obvious, exploitable situations situations. Also if you're concerned about a 3-barrel strat, it really doesn't help showing the villain that you can't value bet a hand like this on the turn. Also if this is early in the match I don't like 3 betting KQ offsuit right away and playing it as a bluff. I would just call and try to get to showdown a few times to try to build some reads (how light does villain call down? is villain aggressive with draws? etc.), or at least 3 bet it for value and play it post flop as such.

agree with everything other than the part about stake-dependent plays. focus on what your opponent is doing rather than assuming he's a certain player type due to stakes. we should always strive to improve our game rather than just try to make as much money as possible (the two sometimes go hand in hand but not always). i do like bet turn check river, if he's overcalling turn he's gonna have a lot of air on rivers and we have a really easy ck/call on most rivers

i think ck turn bet river is a fine line as well, since it allows us to bluff or hit some rivers when our opponent checks back. but like goosey said with KQ we have great equity vs pretty much anything

something important here is how likely he'll bet the turn or check back when we check to him. this will determine what kinda hands we wanna be checking to him. like, if he's gonna bet pretty much anything including all his random flop floats, i'd tend more towards check call. if he's the cally-no-bluffy type then i'm going for valuetownage, possibly 3 streets even

This guy is a multi accounter
or freaking twin brothers
he always owns me, adjusts faster than me somehow. There must be sth fishy
It's not early in the match we played some 3k+ hands HU over a year and Im always gettin raped - I was dodging him.
He'd sit me on both accounts over 4 tables I started. Same guy from this thread:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1108674/Multi_Accounter.html

So yeah
I do want to play balanced vs him (them...lol it's one person) I always get paranoid, and don't wanna play hands in a vacuum anymore since I can get as much action s I want from them and they seem to adjust a lot
and he's the only one at these stakes pretty much
noone else plays me hu anyway long matches

Oh and he floats too much bets too much when checked to IP
like some freaking 68% on that stat

opens 100% calls some 25%

Why does he have to be multi accounting? Couldn't he just be good?

He is playing too nitty defending only 25% on the bb, you should be able to find an edge there

endeavoor: why do you run?
DoC.LemOn: you have chat?:D
endeavoor: yea
endeavoor: now
DoC.LemOn: ur a multi accounter its okay to hnr no? -,-
endeavoor: lol
endeavoor: im not multi
endeavoor: why you say that?
DoC.LemOn: and hostage is what lol
endeavoor: my brother
DoC.LemOn: >>> riiight ;D
endeavoor: lol
endeavoor: its hard to belive?
endeavoor: anyway
endeavoor: not nice to hit and run
endeavoor: cheers
DoC.LemOn: one 2P2 account play in same time same stakes same style...yeah
endeavoor: i had my account and my brother account
endeavoor: suspended for that reason
endeavoor: but I resolve that issue

Guess thats somewhat plausible them playing next to each other play the same way same stats most positoons? I mean stars unlocked em
So its 1v2
not 1v bot or sth
meh still good opportunity to practice solid ranges vs smn

On October 15 2014 03:31 traxamillion wrote: Why does he have to be multi accounting? Couldn't he just be good? He is playing too nitty defending only 25% on the bb, you should be able to find an edge there

he calls 3bets 25%
defs bb around normal freq

just value 3bet huge until he starts 4betting, then just fix ur range

he does 4bet too

Then depending on positions you just fix your ranges and widen ur stackoff ranges

and adjust to his adjustments
In other words: play HU

if your going to play hands like this your better off just flatting pre

decide ahead of time if you wanna paly a big pot or not

what ended up happening here is that you got scared of the turn and checked, then (since your an articulate guy) you justify it to youreself with 7-8 lines of bullshit

balance is 2014 what metagame was 2010, its a bullshit word people use to justify playing bad

many of your HH you start something and then give up, im guessing you were scared of getting raised on the turn so you click check

i know if i was playing some random reg HU in a table that broke, my range would be incredibly unbalanced, cause its more +EV then playing like crap and calling it balanced

refer to south park new season episode 2 to understand what is going on here, that sums it up pretty well

lemon i think i realized what ur biggest issue is, you have too many ideas + information in your head. The issue is that you seem to have an existential crisis every major descion where you see 10+ different ways to play it. Sometimes you need to forget all that bullshit and just play caveman ABC aggro poker, one of the best people at describing this was aba20 in his super old videos on CR

pokertracker5 should just be tom's brain inside a computer like in transcendence

pretty easy bet imo. hes not floating light, your range is really strong on this board so you dont have to worry about being bluff raised (you have QQ JJ QJs KTs KK AA while he only has QJ/KT/T8), and he will call hands that check behind. just protect your flop checks and your flop betting range that reaches the turn will be really strong and can mostly barrel again with some tricky checks like KTs

On October 15 2014 08:56 TalentedTom wrote: lemon i think i realized what ur biggest issue is, you have too many ideas + information in your head. The issue is that you seem to have an existential crisis every major descion where you see 10+ different ways to play it. Sometimes you need to forget all that bullshit and just play caveman ABC aggro poker, one of the best people at describing this was aba20 in his super old videos on CR

this is true and it seems to be a problem for me too for a long time

On October 15 2014 09:11 Santafairy wrote: pokertracker5 should just be tom's brain inside a computer like in transcendence

so now you are spoiling movies aswell ?

not biting dude that was in the trailer i never saw the movie