why?

This can't be right... You're calling 5 with 13ish in the pot and implied odds of 8 more dollars with 10 outs vs KJ, not to mention he can have 33, TT at least.

nh

Still fucking tilts me though. Call and fill up dammit!

orlangoor is a nit goon. He's not doing this with 3's or 10s. I'm honestly quite certain he has a straight. Hence the nice lay down.

Still sucks though.

Me? I'm never laying this down haha, but I'm a spewtard. "I think he has it... he probably has it... he might not... fuck it..." SHOVE

wtf how does one guy know about random villain from another guy's HH

On October 31 2014 11:42 Santafairy wrote: wtf how does one guy know about random villain from another guy's HH

How do people know about your posting habits from your username?

surely PS is bigger than LP though what are really the chances

lol don't raise turn

eh gay spot

On October 31 2014 12:00 Fayth wrote: lol don't raise turn

Yeah 4hrs of sleep after a party 16 tablin this to get platinum star...
set
woo
raiz

DoC.LemOn: calls $0.56

cool

On October 31 2014 13:17 Spitfiree wrote: DoC.LemOn: calls $0.56 cool

nitty guy that raised 3.5bb

preflop call kinda normal given positions

Surely u have to raise turn unless he doesn't open 33

*surely u have to raise turn unless he doesn't have 33 here

Also @lemon: is raise/fold turn here part of your gto strategy?

On October 31 2014 13:53 TalentedTom wrote: preflop call kinda normal given positions

totally not normal. If you knew villain, sure, but otherwise I think it's a standard pump it up

On October 31 2014 14:12 n0rthf4ce wrote: Also @lemon: is raise/fold turn here part of your gto strategy?

I haha'd

@northface - gotta raise this turn imo

edit - but don't raise it like a bitch

On October 31 2014 14:13 devon06atX wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2014 13:53 TalentedTom wrote: preflop call kinda normal given positions totally not normal. If you knew villain, sure, but otherwise I think it's a standard pump it up   On October 31 2014 14:12 n0rthf4ce wrote: Also @lemon: is raise/fold turn here part of your gto strategy? I haha'd

Maybe totally not normal by your standards but welcome to 2014 where most people who open 10-15% in MP to 3,5 BB might not be the best candidates against who you want to mash the raise button mindlessly.

Shit, it's 2014?

..... Let me pull out my calculator and analyze how to respond to your post.....

OR

play qq like qq.

2014. 2214.

No wonder I suck at this game.

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On October 31 2014 13:53 TalentedTom wrote: preflop call kinda normal given positions

cmon its HJ vs BTN if we re not 3betting QQ what are we 3betting ?

lets say the guy is a nit and opens 15% HJ and folds 80% to 3bet, its still a clear 3bet :/
thats like close to worst case scenario ever too

If the guy is in fact a nit as played I like the fold since villains range is KJs KJo & AA
However I've grown to not trust Lemon when it comes to stats cuz he uses the smallest samples ever

On October 31 2014 16:28 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2014 13:53 TalentedTom wrote: preflop call kinda normal given positions cmon its HJ vs BTN if we re not 3betting QQ what are we 3betting ? lets say the guy is a nit and opens 15% HJ and folds 80% to 3bet, its still a clear 3bet :/ thats like close to worst case scenario ever too If the guy is in fact a nit as played I like the fold since villains range is KJs KJo & AA However I've grown to not trust Lemon when it comes to stats cuz he uses the smallest samples ever

Against this kind of villain I would 3bet AA-KK and a bunch of or suitted connector/Ax as bluffs
Against other people who open wider/fold less we can 3bet AK and QQ comfortably.

On October 31 2014 17:20 GoTuNk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2014 16:28 Spitfiree wrote:   On October 31 2014 13:53 TalentedTom wrote: preflop call kinda normal given positions cmon its HJ vs BTN if we re not 3betting QQ what are we 3betting ? lets say the guy is a nit and opens 15% HJ and folds 80% to 3bet, its still a clear 3bet :/ thats like close to worst case scenario ever too If the guy is in fact a nit as played I like the fold since villains range is KJs KJo & AA However I've grown to not trust Lemon when it comes to stats cuz he uses the smallest samples ever Against this kind of villain I would 3bet AA-KK and a bunch of or suitted connector/Ax as bluffs Against other people who open wider/fold less we can 3bet AK and QQ comfortably.

You're right in a vacuum i guess, i just cant give people enough credit in those spots cuz even nits have a hard time folding AQo+,TT+ in those spots
I probably prefer to 3bet/fold

Obviously if he doesnt fold AQ+,TT+ then he s not fold 80% to 3bet too, but still :/ we mostly don't have a sample big enough

On October 31 2014 17:30 Spitfiree wrote: I probably prefer to 3bet/fold

On October 31 2014 16:14 Rapoza wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2014 14:12 n0rthf4ce wrote: Also @lemon: is raise/fold turn here part of your gto strategy? 6 combos of QQ versus 4 combos of KJs so hero gotta raise/fold QQ here 66% of the time in order to make KJ raise profitable gto wise It gets more tricky if your range has KJo pre since now you also have to check back this flop then raise/fold AA and TT as well

QdQh QdQc QhQc

3 combos

did I miss something

On October 31 2014 18:45 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2014 17:30 Spitfiree wrote: I probably prefer to 3bet/fold

LOL STOP