PokerStars Zoom Hand #124777591304: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2014/11/09 15:49:32 CET [2014/11/09 9:49:32 ET]
Table Baade 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: szgj98 ($77.63 in chips)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn ($50.86 in chips)
Seat 3: Otetc82 ($51.75 in chips)
Seat 4: alviano55 ($40.19 in chips)
Seat 5: nkjoker ($44.22 in chips)
Seat 6: herby2888 ($102.65 in chips)
DoC.LemOn: posts small blind $0.25
Otetc82: posts big blind $0.50
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DoC.LemOn 
alviano55: raises $0.50 to $1
nkjoker: calls $1
herby2888: folds
szgj98 has timed out while disconnected
szgj98: folds
DoC.LemOn: calls $0.75
Otetc82: folds
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.50)
DoC.LemOn: checks
alviano55: checks
nkjoker: bets $3.34
DoC.LemOn: calls $3.34
alviano55: folds
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $10.18)
DoC.LemOn: checks
nkjoker: bets $9.72
DoC.LemOn: calls $9.72
River (Pot : $29.62)
DoC.LemOn: checks
nkjoker: bets $30.16 and is all-in
DoC.LemOn: calls $30.16
Showdown
nkjoker: shows 
(a flush, Ace high)
DoC.LemOn: shows (three of a kind, Fives)
nkjoker collected $87.44 from pot
Summary
Total pot $89.94 | Rake $2.50
Board
Seat 1: szgj98 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: DoC.LemOn (small blind) showed and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: Otetc82 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: alviano55 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: nkjoker showed and won ($87.44) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: herby2888 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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fira United States. Nov 09 2014 11:55. Posts 6345 | | |
nothing i woulda done differently |
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 15:04. Posts 6374 | | | |
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fira United States. Nov 09 2014 15:50. Posts 6345 | | |
seems insane to fold pre
i would 3bet squeeze before folding |
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lebowski Greece. Nov 09 2014 16:13. Posts 9205 | | |
| | On November 09 2014 14:50 fira wrote:
seems insane to fold pre
i would 3bet squeeze before folding |
do people fold vs your squeezes?
idk but it seems like nobody folds J10s etc |
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 16:30. Posts 6374 | | |
| | On November 09 2014 14:50 fira wrote:
seems insane to fold pre
i would 3bet squeeze before folding |
you thinking pf call is profitable seems insane
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| ban baal | Last edit: 09/11/2014 16:33 |
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Gnarly United States. Nov 09 2014 16:52. Posts 1723 | | |
idk, i'd rather call here against a bigger stack |
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Spitfiree Bulgaria. Nov 09 2014 18:47. Posts 9634 | | |
Eh its a clear fold pre. Guess there could be some arguments about sqzing, but calling is definitely the worst option |
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fira United States. Nov 09 2014 18:49. Posts 6345 | | |
u guys are weird ~_~
such a good price considering flat caller and we have an sb invested |
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 19:21. Posts 6374 | | |
sb invested... oh no, we are commited! |
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fira United States. Nov 09 2014 19:37. Posts 6345 | | |
makes a difference 
i don't think preflop decisions like this matter a whole lot though, i just don't like folding yummy hands |
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 19:54. Posts 6374 | | |
it does matter coz you are burning money w/ shitty hand oop vs 3 ppl |
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fira United States. Nov 09 2014 20:05. Posts 6345 | | |
how is 56s a shitty hand
u have 40% of four different straight flushes before the flop |
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| | Last edit: 09/11/2014 20:27 |
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goose58 United States. Nov 10 2014 01:17. Posts 871 | | |
C/r the turn simply because the river is gonna be ugly quite often and we want to win a stack here.
Squeezing preflop can be good too against certain opponents, and a flop c/r could work too.
Calling preflop is fine against two probable fish IMO |
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Mardagg Germany. Nov 10 2014 05:40. Posts 843 | | |
Imo,if one of the guys is a fish,its a good idea to call and much better than to squeeze,because of zero fold equity vs fishes.
Looking at the stack sizes of both villains its probably safe to assume that at least 1 of them is a fish.
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ToT)MidiaN(  United Kingdom. Nov 10 2014 10:16. Posts 5070 | | |
Very tough to determine how good PF play is, but a look through my database shows 17 hands where I overcalled an UTG minraise with 23s-T9s (Pretty sure I have the lower ones with 0% frequency) from the SB and I've shown a result of -5.435bb/hand. Given that folding PF has a result of -0.5bb/hand, using this admittedly ridiculously small sample size I'd suggest it's a fold. I think you'd need to stack an absolute TON of aliases together to build up a database sample size large enough to determine how good a call here is, but I tend to think it's a preflop fold with 65s |
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Stim_Abuser United States. Nov 10 2014 14:47. Posts 7499 | | |
Playing SC's OOP vs strong ranges sucks.
Though it is a minraise so meh.
Might call since they both are under 100bb and likely weak players. Usually don't like playing SC's oop though. |
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Trav94 Canada. Nov 10 2014 16:41. Posts 1789 | | |
If Lemon was in the bb, is calling better then folding? |
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dogmeat Czech Republic. Nov 10 2014 17:30. Posts 6374 | | |
proly call... but its not THAT good like an average reg would suggest, these hands are overrated, you are still stucked with nutlow draw vs 2 players, something like 64s would be a fold imo.... anyways this is on your own judgement, simple check your own db to see if its worth |
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