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Handnr: 1045182
Submitted by : lhr0909

Full Tilt Poker Game #34605344282: NLHE 6half .05/.10 #0 - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:29:52 ET - 2014/11/09
Seat 1: JoeStack ($15.15)
Seat 2: lhr0909 ($10.00)
Seat 3: igygyf ($12.07)
Seat 4: ta7 ($5.00)
Seat 5: Jezza ($18.97)
Seat 6: ryanm289000 ($7.39)
ryanm289000 posts the small blind of $0.05
JoeStack posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5

Holecards
Dealt to lhr0909JhJs
lhr0909 raises to $0.30
igygyf folds
Jezza raises to $0.55
ryanm289000 folds
JoeStack folds
lhr0909 raises to $2.10
Jezza calls $1.55

Flop (Pot : $4.35)

   Kh3sKs
lhr0909 checks
Jezza bets $3.00
lhr0909 folds
Uncalled bet of $3.00 returned to Jezza
lhr0909 adds 2.10 chips
Jezza wins the pot ($4.25)

Summary
Total pot $4.35 | Rake $0.10
Board:Kh3sKs
Seat 1: JoeStack folded before the Flop
Seat 2: lhr0909 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: igygyf folded before the Flop
Seat 4: ta7
Seat 5: Jezza collected ($4.25), mucked
Seat 6: ryanm289000 folded before the Flop

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lhr0909   China. Nov 09 2014 15:34. Posts 423

not sure if i could cbet here.. Villain is 46/15/9.7 in 165 hands and i just feel that he had a K there. not sure if it is right not to call..

is bet/fold better than c/f or c/c?

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no pain no gainLast edit: 09/11/2014 15:34

Trav94   Canada. Nov 09 2014 15:36. Posts 1789

Villain has those stats and you don't cbet????


fira   United States. Nov 09 2014 15:49. Posts 6345

i dont get it... why 4bet if we're just gonna check/fold this flop


Trav94   Canada. Nov 09 2014 16:19. Posts 1789

I jam this flop vs this moron if you check, he's not folding 99 on a paired flop. This is burning money man

 Last edit: 09/11/2014 16:19

Santafairy   Korea (South). Nov 09 2014 16:26. Posts 2233

did you put him on a K before or after you saw flop?

i am not an expert but from here it looks like you are in a spot with high variance and you are questioning the way you played it because it looks like you check/folded because it was -variance not because it was +EV. if you c/c what is your plan for turn and river also? or what about c/r if you don't want to cbet. i know there is no fold equity in c/cing, this is as complex as my brain is though so idk

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

lhr0909   China. Nov 09 2014 17:37. Posts 423


  On November 09 2014 15:26 Santafairy wrote:
did you put him on a K before or after you saw flop?

i am not an expert but from here it looks like you are in a spot with high variance and you are questioning the way you played it because it looks like you check/folded because it was -variance not because it was +EV. if you c/c what is your plan for turn and river also? or what about c/r if you don't want to cbet. i know there is no fold equity in c/cing, this is as complex as my brain is though so idk



I think I did put him on AK/Kx so this is very annoying for me. I lost a big pot vs him right before where he actually showed up with the top of the range

no pain no gain 

Trav94   Canada. Nov 09 2014 18:03. Posts 1789

You cant put someone on AK/Kx pre flop. His range is going to be much wider then that, and if it isn't your 4bet is terrible


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 09 2014 18:07. Posts 9634

whyyyyyyyyy whyyyyyyyyyy wouold you ever c/f whyyyyyy


goose58   United States. Nov 10 2014 01:26. Posts 871

Galfond sometimes cbets 1/3 pot in 4bet pots that get to the flop, and it's perfect in this situation because we can easily do it with Kx, air, or hands like these

Even a half pot bet is more +EV than just check folding because we only need to win the pot over 33% of the time. I think that is easily attainable and sometimes they call with weaker hands like 99 etc.

Once we check and he bets this much it's kinda sick, then we play some poker and ask ourselves if our opponent can make this bet light.

 Last edit: 10/11/2014 01:28

devon06atX   Canada. Nov 10 2014 12:46. Posts 5459


  On November 09 2014 15:19 Trav94 wrote:
I jam this flop vs this moron if you check, he's not folding 99 on a paired flop. This is burning money man


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 10 2014 17:37. Posts 6374

overbet shoving seems a little bit extreme -_- 2.5 flop, shove turn, or given his 10 af, c/cing is an option

1/3rd is std in 4b pots but no need to worry about sizing vs retards, just set up bets nicely

ban baalLast edit: 10/11/2014 17:39

 

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