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Handnr: 1045528
Submitted by : Bejamin1

PokerStars Zoom Hand #125171464143: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2014/11/15 17:11:47 ET
Table Aquarius Dwarf 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ga3091 ($21.99 in chips)
Seat 2: Ucall_itover ($310.07 in chips)
Seat 3: Bejamin1 ($57 in chips)
Seat 4: trainee1 ($87 in chips)
Seat 5: coolio79 ($30.27 in chips)
Seat 6: beabado ($12.12 in chips)
Ucall_itover: posts small blind $0.25
Bejamin1: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Bejamin1 Ks5h5cKh
trainee1: folds
coolio79: folds
beabado: folds
ga3091: folds
Ucall_itover: raises $1 to $1.50
Bejamin1: raises $3 to $4.50
Ucall_itover: calls $3

Flop (Pot : $9.00)

   JdQd4s
Ucall_itover: checks
Bejamin1: checks

Turn (Pot : $9.00)

   JdQd4s8c
Ucall_itover: bets $6.10
Bejamin1: calls $6.10

River (Pot : $21.20)

   JdQd4s8c9h
Ucall_itover: checks
Bejamin1: checks

Showdown
Ucall_itover: shows 2dAs6s8d (a pair of Eights)
Bejamin1: shows Ks5h5cKh (a pair of Kings)
Bejamin1 collected $20.25 from pot

Summary
Total pot $21.20 | Rake $0.95
Board  JdQd4s8c9h
Seat 1: ga3091 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Ucall_itover (small blind) showed 2dAs6s8d and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 3: Bejamin1 (big blind) showed Ks5h5cKh and won ($20.25) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: trainee1 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: coolio79 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: beabado folded before Flop (didnt bet)


PokerStars Zoom Hand #125171492348: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2014/11/15 17:12:14 ET
Table Aquarius Dwarf 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: johtajap ($196.99 in chips)
Seat 2: Ucall_itover ($101.14 in chips)
Seat 3: ondutynow ($87.47 in chips)
Seat 4: Bejamin1 ($76.37 in chips)
Seat 5: PokerPancake ($151.59 in chips)
Seat 6: ga3091 ($21.24 in chips)
Ucall_itover: posts small blind $0.25
ondutynow: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to Bejamin1 AdKsAh9s
Bejamin1: raises $1.25 to $1.75
PokerPancake: folds
ga3091: folds
johtajap: folds
Ucall_itover: calls $1.50
ondutynow: folds

Flop (Pot : $13.00)

   Qh8sTs
Ucall_itover: checks
Bejamin1: checks

Turn (Pot : $13.00)

   Qh8sTsQc
Ucall_itover: bets $2.71
Bejamin1: calls $2.71

River (Pot : $30.62)

   Qh8sTsQc6d
Ucall_itover: checks
Bejamin1: checks

Showdown
Ucall_itover: shows 9hKd3sAs (a pair of Queens)
Bejamin1: shows AdKsAh9s (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Bejamin1 collected $9 from pot

Summary
Total pot $9.42 | Rake $0.42
Board  Qh8sTsQc6d
Seat 1: johtajap (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Ucall_itover (small blind) showed 9hKd3sAs and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: ondutynow (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Bejamin1 showed AdKsAh9s and won ($9) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: PokerPancake folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: ga3091 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Bejamin1   Canada. Nov 15 2014 17:23. Posts 7042

So oddly enough, I wonder if smallish c-bet or checking much more frequently behind in AAxx 3-bet pots would be superior to c-betting as much as I am. Part of the advantage being people see sexy flop equity and always want to jam and puts us guessing whether we're the 60% or the 40% most of the time.

Now, theoretically it's to AAxx's disadvantage especially in low SPR pots to give them a free card, but how bad is giving a free card if the possibilities are basically.
A) 30-40% of the time they fold to you're 75% c-bet (they'll fold only 20% if you 1/2 pot it)
B) 40% of the time they will shove and either you or them will be a 60/40ish favourite
C) 20% of the time they will shove and have you in rough shape to an awful degree 65%+ or better

These are not the exact stats, it would be more appropriate if we assigned a range of something like top 15-20% of hands vs. AAxx and how often are they flopping what with Pro-Poker Tools but you get the point.

Yes we have individual stats and should target those who fold a high % to c-bets in 3-bet pots, but we often don't have enough statistical power to justify using those.

So the issue becomes - are we just raking ourselves to death when maybe in a lot of spots checking back with AAxx and playing on a more defined board on the turn would be better. People give up a lot more if they only have one more card to come (at least casuals do) but that's just a personal inference. Delayed c-bet basically...

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traxamillion   United States. Nov 16 2014 02:32. Posts 10468

You def have more than AA here and it's not a 3bet pot so bet the flop. You could have won a stack this hand


 

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