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In retrospect, how do you feel about your turn play? In other sorta-similar situations?

Its a mistake because it means I m not raising this turn nearly enough and im overly worried about protecting a very rare calling range. Can use worse kings for that.

thx.

I thought it was a shove/fold situation. I'm learning a very nitty style, so it's good to see real players put strategies in action.

frig, what an interesting game.

On January 10 2015 23:43 devon06atX wrote: thx. I thought it was a shove/fold situation. I'm learning a very nitty style, so it's good to see real players put strategies in action. frig, what an interesting game.

shove or FOLD? youre getting 3:1 with the nut trips and a lot of outs to the nuts. why would you ever consider fold > call here?

i think call is ok, but raise is better. almost no boats in his range after 3betting pre and probably quite a few bluffs with outs. 765 or clubs have plenty of outs vs us.

would u ever fold pre? or is our hand just too good/connected to fold for that amount despite being OOP?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too good.

Yep. Shove or fold. I wrote it therefore it's the correct action.

I didn't put as much consideration into the post as I should have. Clearly ak on this turn is tits. Sorry for mangling this hh w/ my bs.

Why not c/r turn? I'm assuming cuz of deepness/wtf to do if you get raised again. Villain can easily hold low pairs.

I'm just gonna stfu and let the real players talk. My apologies.

On January 11 2015 02:29 devon06atX wrote: Yep. Shove or fold. I wrote it therefore it's the correct action. I didn't put as much consideration into the post as I should have. Clearly ak on this turn is tits. Sorry for mangling this hh w/ my bs. Why not c/r turn? I'm assuming cuz of deepness/wtf to do if you get raised again. Villain can easily hold low pairs. I'm just gonna stfu and let the real players talk. My apologies.

youd consider calling for a few reasons:

-we are really deep and we dont have the nuts. and while he has very few boats, he can definitely have a hand like 7744 or 5533 or even K764ds type hands.
-we will mostly just fold out worse hands here.

but i do like raising better for 2 key reasons:
-765 and hands like he has all have a reasonable number of outs against us
-if he has Kxxx, then he likely has 3 or 6 outs and will put more money in on the turn, while if we c/c check, he is probably going to check back unimproved rivers.

but we dont want to raise too big. if we pot Kxxx without a boat or an A may just folds. even if we 3x they might fold due to having few or overlapping outs. but we dont want to minraise either. i guess around 425 is best. decent size with hands like Axcc for bluffing and its one of those zones where weaker Kxxx probably calls but its probably a mistake to do so.

I cant imagine being good on this river all that often tbh