can I check/call 3 here..? If i cant check/call 3 with this I dont know what I would do it with and my checking range gets pretty exploitable. However I do get shown a lot of AK/KQ in this spot so i donno..

Why 3b pre

I dont have a flatting range in the SB. and I might 3bet it from other positions too as a bluff

flat seems better for sure vs this sizing, the BB is a nit afaik. KQo is a better 3bet anyways (Q is a lot better blocker, KJs plays better 3way)
So if you still 3b KQo and have KQ QQ on the river this can actually be a fold with the general tendency of pretty heftily under bluffing rivers from NL25 population

hrmm I didnt think of QQ in this spot. I donno about KQo but I would have KQs for sure here, so then I feel better about folding KJs.

Would you say KQo is a better 3bet than KJs in a vacuum? If SB is an average reg and I dont want to flat. Im currently folding KQo/AJo with more emphasis on suited broadways vs UTG. Id like to be able to stack off more often if I get a solid draw instead of always bluff catching out of position

Also what if river is a brick instead of the Q. Then I would want to fold everything lol, no sets or 2pair for me

So what are you doing with AK here? And I don't necessarily know that you should be folding everything to his 3ball here

not sure about the 3bet pre,but post looks fine.
River can be a fold vs certain players though.

Exploitative river fold looks fine here. If you think about your perceived range, villain doesnt expect you to fold anything. The Q improves you to kq occasionally as well as queens full. I would expect villain to have 0 bluffs and to checkback as strong as ak.

On April 12 2015 20:42 DragOn_ wrote: I dont have a flatting range in the SB. and I might 3bet it from other positions too as a bluff

Not having a call range pre is cool, however you should adjust properly as he opens the MP and this is probably an easy fold on the river. The only combos i feel like he could have on bluff is JThh & 78hh & AJhh here which isn't good for us :D

On April 13 2015 07:42 traxamillion wrote: So what are you doing with AK here? And I don't necessarily know that you should be folding everything to his 3ball here

Id probably be betting out at least 2 with AK, although I hate the river. It definitely seems like an exploitative/exploitable line to check/call, check/call, check/fold everything on a non Q (and non J) river. Perhaps that means I should be taking that line with AK sometimes as well so I have something to not fold lol

If people are underbluffing that much you should probably be using more up front aggression yourself instead of going into bluff catcher mode - the logic being "why bluff catch if they're not bluffing?"