PokerStars Hand #133911729175: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2015/04/18 8:45:25 ET
Table Nike II 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($1589.79 in chips)
Seat 2: butman76 ($1542.29 in chips)
butman76: posts small blind $3
Hero: posts big blind $6
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
butman76: raises $6 to $12
Hero: raises $37.80 to $49.80
butman76: calls $37.80
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $99.60)
Hero: bets $63.42
butman76: calls $63.42
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $226.44)
Hero: bets $144.60
butman76: calls $144.60
River (Pot : $515.64)
Hero: bets $384
butman76: raises $900.47 to $1284.47 and is all-in
Hero: calls $900.47
Showdown
butman76: shows (high card King)
Hero: shows (a flush, King high)
Hero collected $3084.08 from pot
Summary
Total pot $3084.58 | Rake $0.50
Board
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) showed and won ($3084.08) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: butman76 (button) (small blind) showed and lost with high card King
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 15:42. Posts 1639 | | |
so if a non spade comes, x/x ?
i mean, his id is but, man, 67. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 15:44. Posts 1639 | | |
his line seems kinda bad, say u have JJ-QQ etc, still bet calling? |
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drone666   Brasil. Apr 18 2015 17:01. Posts 1825 | | |
dont really know prob would shut down bc I block so many draws
Im not betting river with JJ-QQ, prob x/c river with these hands
hes a fish so his line is expected to be bad |
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Dont listen to anything I say | |
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hiems   United States. Apr 18 2015 18:12. Posts 2979 | | |
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I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] | |
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traxamillion   United States. Apr 18 2015 21:56. Posts 10468 | | |
those aren't the only factors though neilly; this line gets villain max value out of air and also wins him the most when drone folds a better hand (anything). He called down twice on a pretty dry board which is reasonable to do with anything. The king spades obviously isn't that dry but that doesn't mean villain is all of a sudden better off raising most of his range or whatever versus calling.
Look what Drone has here. Obviously he is pretty wide. Sure he might not barrel without picking up equity but the fact remains he has a decent amount of bluffs/semibluffs here which again indicates that villain is fine calling. Again I can't say drone is actually wide when he bets the river but as far as villain calling flop and turn I believe that is justified if not standard.
Then the river he bricks and shoves since he beats nothing. I'm not sure how he plays but he can reasonably rep a backdoor flush and if hero bluffs enough on this river or bet/folds AK/AA (??) maybe its alright. I wouldn't necessarily judge him a fish based on this shove or this one hand and thats pretty much all i'm saying here. That and calling flop/turn is ok imo.
You rather just raise flop and bomb a majority of the time neilly? or raise this turn after calling flop? |
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| Last edit: 18/04/2015 22:05 |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 22:13. Posts 1639 | | |
trax your ego is very large.
i was just asking questions to drone whos a heads up specialist, i wasn't saying i would play them differently.
personally call 50-75% 3b rest Q7ss, x/r this board or fold this board OOP, good board to do it with. depends on villian.
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 22:14. Posts 1639 | | |
if i 3bet its a mandatory 3barrel with turn equity added, great backdoor spades overcard and straight potential for a check raise, i prefer to have equity when i do so, this is in my x/r flop range for sure. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 22:17. Posts 1639 | | |
trax my first post was just a troll joke post btw this is a standard hand. |
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traxamillion   United States. Apr 18 2015 23:15. Posts 10468 | | |
My ego? I never said I'm even good or that you were wrong. I was actually wondering cause both you and drone made it sound like villain was a fish taking a bad line and I just thought it was kind of standard. Not talking shit Ryan |
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traxamillion   United States. Apr 18 2015 23:20. Posts 10468 | | |
If anything I make a better effort to put my thoughts about hands into words here to start discussion not because I'm trying to lecture people but I've always found posting shit useful because when I post something wrong or dumb people tell me or if I happen to post a good or original idea then I might get feedback on that too |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 23:42. Posts 1639 | | |
ah i just thought u were like trying to teach a very standard spot lol
what u said is good info and all.
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Venrae   United States. Apr 19 2015 00:54. Posts 1545 | | |
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Learn to appreciate the value of the dollar. The rest is easy. (Hurricane @ TL) | Last edit: 19/04/2015 00:54 |
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drone666   Brasil. Apr 19 2015 04:44. Posts 1825 | | |
| On April 18 2015 17:12 hiems wrote:
u 3bet this 100bb? |
never, and not standard to 3bet this deep for me too
but he wasnt folding to 3bets so my plan was to play big pots with decent hands |
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hiems   United States. Apr 19 2015 05:57. Posts 2979 | | |
| On April 19 2015 03:44 drone666 wrote:
never, and not standard to 3bet this deep for me too
but he wasnt folding to 3bets so my plan was to play big pots with decent hands
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ic. cool, thanks. |
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I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] | |
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