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Handnr: 1052582
Submitted by : drone666

PokerStars Hand #133911729175: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2015/04/18 8:45:25 ET
Table Nike II 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($1589.79 in chips)
Seat 2: butman76 ($1542.29 in chips)
butman76: posts small blind $3
Hero: posts big blind $6

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero Qs7s
butman76: raises $6 to $12
Hero: raises $37.80 to $49.80
butman76: calls $37.80

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $99.60)

   Td5s4h
Hero: bets $63.42
butman76: calls $63.42

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $226.44)

   Td5s4hKs
Hero: bets $144.60
butman76: calls $144.60

River (Pot : $515.64)

   Td5s4hKs9s
Hero: bets $384
butman76: raises $900.47 to $1284.47 and is all-in
Hero: calls $900.47

Showdown
butman76: shows 7h6d (high card King)
Hero: shows Qs7s (a flush, King high)
Hero collected $3084.08 from pot

Summary
Total pot $3084.58 | Rake $0.50
Board  Td5s4hKs9s
Seat 1: Hero (big blind) showed Qs7s and won ($3084.08) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: butman76 (button) (small blind) showed 7h6d and lost with high card King

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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 15:42. Posts 1639

so if a non spade comes, x/x ?

i mean, his id is but, man, 67.

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Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 15:44. Posts 1639

his line seems kinda bad, say u have JJ-QQ etc, still bet calling?


drone666   Brasil. Apr 18 2015 17:01. Posts 1825

dont really know prob would shut down bc I block so many draws
Im not betting river with JJ-QQ, prob x/c river with these hands

hes a fish so his line is expected to be bad

Dont listen to anything I say 

hiems   United States. Apr 18 2015 18:12. Posts 2979

u 3bet this 100bb?

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 18 2015 21:56. Posts 10468

those aren't the only factors though neilly; this line gets villain max value out of air and also wins him the most when drone folds a better hand (anything). He called down twice on a pretty dry board which is reasonable to do with anything. The king spades obviously isn't that dry but that doesn't mean villain is all of a sudden better off raising most of his range or whatever versus calling.

Look what Drone has here. Obviously he is pretty wide. Sure he might not barrel without picking up equity but the fact remains he has a decent amount of bluffs/semibluffs here which again indicates that villain is fine calling. Again I can't say drone is actually wide when he bets the river but as far as villain calling flop and turn I believe that is justified if not standard.

Then the river he bricks and shoves since he beats nothing. I'm not sure how he plays but he can reasonably rep a backdoor flush and if hero bluffs enough on this river or bet/folds AK/AA (??) maybe its alright. I wouldn't necessarily judge him a fish based on this shove or this one hand and thats pretty much all i'm saying here. That and calling flop/turn is ok imo.

You rather just raise flop and bomb a majority of the time neilly? or raise this turn after calling flop?

 Last edit: 18/04/2015 22:05

Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 22:13. Posts 1639

trax your ego is very large.

i was just asking questions to drone whos a heads up specialist, i wasn't saying i would play them differently.

personally call 50-75% 3b rest Q7ss, x/r this board or fold this board OOP, good board to do it with. depends on villian.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 22:14. Posts 1639

if i 3bet its a mandatory 3barrel with turn equity added, great backdoor spades overcard and straight potential for a check raise, i prefer to have equity when i do so, this is in my x/r flop range for sure.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 22:17. Posts 1639

trax my first post was just a troll joke post btw this is a standard hand.


traxamillion   United States. Apr 18 2015 23:15. Posts 10468

My ego? I never said I'm even good or that you were wrong. I was actually wondering cause both you and drone made it sound like villain was a fish taking a bad line and I just thought it was kind of standard. Not talking shit Ryan


traxamillion   United States. Apr 18 2015 23:20. Posts 10468

If anything I make a better effort to put my thoughts about hands into words here to start discussion not because I'm trying to lecture people but I've always found posting shit useful because when I post something wrong or dumb people tell me or if I happen to post a good or original idea then I might get feedback on that too


Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 18 2015 23:42. Posts 1639

ah i just thought u were like trying to teach a very standard spot lol

what u said is good info and all.


Venrae   United States. Apr 19 2015 00:54. Posts 1545

im an idiot

Learn to appreciate the value of the dollar. The rest is easy. (Hurricane @ TL)Last edit: 19/04/2015 00:54

drone666   Brasil. Apr 19 2015 04:44. Posts 1825


  On April 18 2015 17:12 hiems wrote:
u 3bet this 100bb?



never, and not standard to 3bet this deep for me too
but he wasnt folding to 3bets so my plan was to play big pots with decent hands

Dont listen to anything I say 

hiems   United States. Apr 19 2015 05:57. Posts 2979


  On April 19 2015 03:44 drone666 wrote:
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never, and not standard to 3bet this deep for me too
but he wasnt folding to 3bets so my plan was to play big pots with decent hands


ic. cool, thanks.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

 

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