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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 11 2015 18:13. Posts 15163 | | |
How come you won, he has the best hand no? |
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lebowski   Greece. Jun 11 2015 19:14. Posts 9205 | | |
weird bluff, maybe he thinks you're potting with Th to call vs a raise?
I could see him trying to make you fold Ah if you were deep, but this...
You either have Ah or a bluff and it's 100bb deep |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 11 2015 19:32. Posts 10468 | | |
multiple straight flushes out there; he is just going for the sick bluff with a blocker imo. He might be going for thin value but that would be dumb imo since you don't really vbet worse this size much less call it off when shoved on. |
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redrain0125   Canada. Jun 11 2015 21:04. Posts 5455 | | |
| On June 11 2015 18:32 traxamillion wrote:
multiple straight flushes out there; he is just going for the sick bluff with a blocker imo. He might be going for thin value but that would be dumb imo since you don't really vbet worse this size much less call it off when shoved on. |
are you neilly |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 11 2015 21:17. Posts 15163 | | |
| On June 11 2015 20:04 redrain0125 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 18:32 traxamillion wrote:
multiple straight flushes out there; he is just going for the sick bluff with a blocker imo. He might be going for thin value but that would be dumb imo since you don't really vbet worse this size much less call it off when shoved on. |
are you neilly
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Do you even math bro
Let's look at the hand in more detail. On the river villain has
Straight+Flush = StraightFlush
StraightFlush > flush
Villain was indeed valuebetting |
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redrain0125   Canada. Jun 11 2015 21:33. Posts 5455 | | |
| On June 11 2015 20:17 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 20:04 redrain0125 wrote:
| On June 11 2015 18:32 traxamillion wrote:
multiple straight flushes out there; he is just going for the sick bluff with a blocker imo. He might be going for thin value but that would be dumb imo since you don't really vbet worse this size much less call it off when shoved on. |
are you neilly
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Do you even math bro
Let's look at the hand in more detail. On the river villain has
Straight+Flush = StraightFlush
StraightFlush > flush
Villain was indeed valuebetting |
bankin on that micros since 2009 |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 11 2015 21:54. Posts 15163 | | |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 11 2015 23:03. Posts 10468 | | |
Lol ok redrain so you just valueshove all day here in villain's spot vs hero's River bet. That's great. It implies you shove worse flushes too if Qh is such a slam ai. Just weird it's not like you just disagree you INSULTINGLY disagree. I mean I get its HU not 6max but I don't see hero 3balling top set or the 10h/8h. |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 11 2015 23:15. Posts 15163 | | |
Wait
too many levels ITT now :D |
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fira   United States. Jun 12 2015 00:32. Posts 6345 | | |
lol villain's shove is the worst... look at hero's sizing that's always gonna be either nuts or air. villain has nut bluffcatcher if he's not calling with this he's never calling. i'd put villain on a thin value shove before i put it on a bluff, seriously who the heck folds Ah in hero's spot? nobody that's who
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definitely think it's a vbet not a bluff, but it's a really terrible one. bluff even worse though, nobody in the world would fold the ace, and there definitely some people who could call with Th.
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 09:07. Posts 1639 | | |
obv a snap... lemon wtf u smoking, must be super chron. u really think i play this way?
lets play heads up sir |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 09:07. Posts 1639 | | |
i ussue a 1k nl50 hu challenge to lemon for that fucking remark. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 09:08. Posts 1639 | | |
pm if u accept im not checkin this post again im really busy in general to look at hh's often. if u take it then we play on bovada or acr. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 09:09. Posts 1639 | | |
oh wait redrain said it, drinkiin 1am. redrain we can do 1k hu nl50 - 10bi - rest 500 pile goes to winner. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 10:03. Posts 1639 | | |
REDRAIN PM ME WE START ASAP ILL STREAM HUDLESS 10BI + 10BI ESCROW. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 10:04. Posts 1639 | | |
| On June 11 2015 20:33 redrain0125 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2015 20:17 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
| On June 11 2015 20:04 redrain0125 wrote:
| On June 11 2015 18:32 traxamillion wrote:
multiple straight flushes out there; he is just going for the sick bluff with a blocker imo. He might be going for thin value but that would be dumb imo since you don't really vbet worse this size much less call it off when shoved on. |
are you neilly
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Do you even math bro
Let's look at the hand in more detail. On the river villain has
Straight+Flush = StraightFlush
StraightFlush > flush
Villain was indeed valuebetting |
are u kidding u fucking fish this is heads up game, the Qh is a bet fold not that u would know that? image plays a small role but its vacuumed to 70/30.
learn math
bankin on that micros since 2009 |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 10:05. Posts 1639 | | |
reasoning? 21 invested $180 on river = fuckin nuts dude are u retarded lets play |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 10:05. Posts 1639 | | |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 13 2015 10:27. Posts 9634 | | |
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YoMeR   United States. Jun 13 2015 10:43. Posts 12438 | | |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jun 13 2015 11:21. Posts 4697 | | |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 12:25. Posts 1639 | | |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 12:27. Posts 1639 | | |
i really reallly really neeed this hu match lol plz accept just pm me in the morning we can start we can play bovada i will stream on 5 min delay so you "get an edge" this is the biggest thing i can do for you to have a chance vs me.
gl lets do thsi i hope you see theres edge in that in the long run and over 20bi thats something you may be able to utalize if your intelligent and can balance your game.
ill play you for 2.5k. |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 12:28. Posts 1639 | | |
max nl100 tho and escrow of 50% |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 12:28. Posts 1639 | | |
if u puss n boots im gonna fuckin shrek u |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 13:24. Posts 1639 | | |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 13 2015 13:25. Posts 1639 | | |
If i was artanis : i'd just say "les flip 50x and gimme 250k, then kick urself in the nuts 5x" save u time |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 13 2015 16:34. Posts 10468 | | |
It was redrain talking shit not lemon, neilly. I'll play redrain hu too.
Arguing about what villain thought his play was is Pointless. It matters what it is. This shove is so thin for value it doesn't really work. In theory however villain can rep 2 straight flush combos credibly meaning hero should fold the nut flush some % of the time. So in practice while no one folds the Ah, no one pot calls the 10h either. At least you woul have some mathematical justification for the bluff though and at deeper stack sizes it gets better. If I'm calling off a shove in hero's spot (assume I don't block anything with my own hand) the hands I would expect to see in order are
1. Nutflush
2. Bluff
3. Straightflush
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6. 10H valuehove (way down the list of what I expect to see)
Maybe it's the mythical valuebluff; gets paranoid calls out of tricky thin big river valuebets but then vs solids/nits who only bet a polarized nut range this size on River it gets them to fold everything |
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I'm a good 99%+ certain that across the board, you're much more likely to see 10H calling than AH folding here. |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Jun 13 2015 21:48. Posts 6374 | | |
^but whos betting Th? what am i missing |
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