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devon06atX   Canada. Jun 17 2015 22:45. Posts 5459 | | |
I'm not folding here. If villain has a boat, so be it |
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handbanana21   United States. Jun 17 2015 23:56. Posts 3037 | | |
we block every possible combo fd he could have. that only leaves boats in his range. def c/f. |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 18 2015 00:23. Posts 9634 | | |
depends on villain
if he s anywhere near decent you don't beat much, but then again he should have 2 KJs combos 3x JJ 3x99 which aint many combos and still have 1-2 flush combos like 78hh 67hh
I'd go ahead and check but not quite sure c/f s best and certainly not if you got no info |
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devon06atX   Canada. Jun 18 2015 02:27. Posts 5459 | | |
I see people do the min raise in spots like this with shit as stupid as kq, k10, etc. etc. Not the norm mind you, but people shouldn't automatically assume people are playing 'correctly'.
I'm fairly confident set of 9s and j's gets it in on the flop (same with q10, but that's neither here nor there), which leaves us with kj. What's villains 3b - wouldn't it seem more likely jj would 3bet on the button 6handed?
But since we know jack shit about villain, whatever. c/f just seems so wtfreallysadfaceslitwrists to me. And betting/folding seems sad panda too.
I mean, would villain also get 2p in on the flop? Who knows.
Since no info - ALL IN NUT FLUSH YA BABY YA |
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AndrewSong   United States. Jun 18 2015 08:06. Posts 2355 | | |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 18 2015 20:21. Posts 10468 | | |
yea def call the flop.
you are losing to k9 or kj i'm sure but if he is fishy enough to have QK here dunno if you can c/f as played |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 18 2015 20:28. Posts 10468 | | |
actually hes got a fat stack so he probably isn't clueless. He is not raising 56hh hands on flop imo. That turn puts you solidly behind his range so c/f is in line. Be nice to know exactly how he plays his q10 combos; only thing i wonder about (does he 4bet jam flop? fold the offsuit combos pre? this is the worst turn in the deck for q10 so would he check back turn if checked to? river?). |
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Ryan Neilly   United States. Jun 19 2015 01:44. Posts 1639 | | |
hes almost always on 2 pair here though, you overplayed the flop now you have to go with it because of a few combos,i would x/x x/f or x/x x/x depending on villian here, folding turn is not terrible.
i think your about 35% to win this hand itlr tho, so sticking it in after the flop action is never really that bad and he can have hands like QK etc
i check call tho to let him bluff bottom 2 pair, hearts, and slowplayed QT hands since many players don't get the right action on on the right boards |
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Daut   United States. Jun 19 2015 04:54. Posts 8955 | | |
easiest c/f. you beat nothing (except maybe QT) from a competent player that raise/calls the flop, he will probably check that hand down, and excluding bluffs like AQo ATo we have close to the bottom of our range. |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jun 19 2015 10:53. Posts 8119 | | |
Lmao I'm never folding here |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jun 19 2015 10:54. Posts 4697 | | |
Can't fold, you're either ahead or you have outs so you're basically 75%. |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jun 19 2015 10:54. Posts 8119 | | |
find best value line, and maybe cf WORST rivers. B small turn shove riv imo |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jun 19 2015 10:56. Posts 8119 | | |
| On June 19 2015 03:54 Daut wrote:
easiest c/f. you beat nothing (except maybe QT) from a competent player that raise/calls the flop, he will probably check that hand down, and excluding bluffs like AQo ATo we have close to the bottom of our range. |
if I have a b/3b range at all in this texture/stacksize (I don't), AThh is certainly not near the bottom
Edit: "stack use" to "stacksize" |
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handbanana21   United States. Jun 19 2015 11:06. Posts 3037 | | |
given op never stated that villain was a fish. its prob safe to assume its a competent reg even at 30nl. Stacking after that turn comes regardless of where you are in your range is not a cooler. |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jun 19 2015 11:15. Posts 4697 | | |
Given villain minraised flop we can probably safely assume he is a fish. |
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handbanana21   United States. Jun 19 2015 12:26. Posts 3037 | | |
| On June 19 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Given villain minraised flop we can probably safely assume he is a fish. |
gg |
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lebowski   Greece. Jun 19 2015 17:00. Posts 9205 | | |
| On June 19 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't fold, you're either ahead or you have outs so you're basically 75%. |
if he's not ahead he has only the Qh as an out |
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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jun 19 2015 18:03. Posts 4697 | | |
| On June 19 2015 16:00 lebowski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can't fold, you're either ahead or you have outs so you're basically 75%. |
if he's not ahead he has only the Qh as an out
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Whoever said anything close to folding is pretty much a nit.
this is nl30 people make some huge errors with bad flop raises, bad turn/river calls, and they rarely make good folds.
so please bet small on the turn and shove river. |
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traxamillion   United States. Jun 19 2015 22:52. Posts 10468 | | |
I said it was close and vs bads prolly can't fold but vs decent players (which exist at any limit online these days) u can |
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