44/14 fishy guy
24% fold to flop cbet (23 sample)
4.82 left


I usually just give up here vs fish

Would you cbet here without backdoor fd?

Dunno I'd play like u and probably xback river as he s a fish and wont fold anything + he doesn't have any money behind
I wouldn't play him at all though since you are at a 6max table @ 16nl and playing HU rake will be huge

On June 20 2015 08:54 Trav94 wrote: Would you cbet here without backdoor fd?

no. not even sure if I should cbet this if I don't intend to 3 barrel on the best backdoor turn card actually.

I think a lot of Ahighs will be tempted to call the turn here

How do you guys like shoving the river to get weak pairs/Ahighs to fold.

fairly std shove imo(if you bet turn, that is), you're blocking the nuts a lil and every 2nd pair/3rd pair on the flop (or 56) will have a tough calldown.

checking loses to Ahi's too. only thing that autocalls is Qx and 2pairs (considering it's 16nl I expect people to donkshove 2pair+ otr or raise turns with 2p+ often)

what spitfiree said about rake is really true though, rake kills at <50nl (even at 50nl it kills if opponent has any idea what he's doing or is playing too tight)

yeah agreed, I shipped and should do this a lot more
I did a db check and I've got 51% river cbet success with air/bottom pairs/underpairs