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Handnr: 1057325
Submitted by : Balzamon

***** Hand History for Game 2289391627 ***** Boss
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 03, 07:22:10 ET 2015
Table Cleopatra 4 Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: stegus $324.56 USD
Seat 2: jiran $989.62 USD
Seat 3: Namehere $533.08 USD
Seat 4: Balzamon $954.69 USD
Seat 5: Bujz $534.28 USD
Namehere posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
Balzamon posts big blind [$4.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Balzamon [4dQd ]
Bujz folds
stegus calls [$4.00 USD]
jiran folds
Namehere calls [$2.00 USD]
Balzamon checks

Flop (Pot : $12.00)

   4h9d4c
Namehere bets [$6.00 USD]
Balzamon calls [$6.00 USD]
stegus calls [$6.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $30.00)

   4h9d4c2s
Namehere bets [$22.50 USD]
Balzamon calls [$22.50 USD]
stegus folds

River (Pot : $75.00)

   4h9d4c2sTs
Namehere bets [$52.00 USD]

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Balzamon   Sweden. Sep 04 2015 12:38. Posts 2868

Competent reg, raise or call river?

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Sep 04 2015 12:42. Posts 4697

I don't really see what bluff you can have here other than turning 9x into a bluff so I like call.


fira   United States. Sep 05 2015 04:23. Posts 6345

yep call. i'm not sure what we should bluff here, since we will have value hands like 94 and T4. seems highly likely that villain also has a 4, given flop turn river action (3way on turn)


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Sep 05 2015 17:16. Posts 5070

Not sure he goes 3 streets even with T9 so if his only value hands are 4x+ and he likely has more offsuit combinations of A4o preflop than any other offsuit 4x combination (Doubt he completes even with 54o or 43o?) with a lower kicker than yours it looks like it's just a flat. I think he probably has to value bet wider than 4x and have a lot more combos of the lower 4x preflop for it to be a value raise with Q4. I don't think we necessarily have to worry about us not having enough bluffs, if the hand is strong enough to raise, it's strong enough to raise. It's not like you'd get to the river with T4o and say "I'm not going to raise because I don't have enough bluffs!". If Q4 is strong enough to value raise it's strong enough to value raise, I just don't think it is in this spot with how games play. Even in terms of game theory you determine how many bluffs you're supposed to have based on the number of value bets you have, not the other way around.

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hopeLast edit: 05/09/2015 17:20

Balzamon   Sweden. Sep 06 2015 00:46. Posts 2868

Yeah okay thanks for the input , call is what I did


 

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