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Handnr: 1057835
Submitted by : TimDawg

PokerStars Hand #3132004330: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2015/09/11 17:24:24
Table #10018997 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: PLR_2196866MQ ($70.30 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_8648459EC ($146.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: PLR_4430917GA ($93.45 in chips)
Seat 6: PLR_1191775BG ($156.39 in chips)
PLR_4430917GA: posts small blind $0.50
PLR_1191775BG: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero Jh7c9c8h
PLR_2196866MQ: raises $3.50 to $3.50
PLR_8648459EC: calls $3.50
Hero: raises $15.50 to $15.50
PLR_4430917GA: calls $15
PLR_1191775BG: folds
PLR_2196866MQ: calls $12
PLR_8648459EC: calls $12

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $63.00)

   6d3dTc
PLR_4430917GA: checks
PLR_2196866MQ: bets $54.80 and is all-in
PLR_8648459EC: raises $75.95 to $130.75 and is all-in
Hero: calls $84.50 and is all-in
PLR_4430917GA: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $286.80)

   6d3dTc6s

River (Pot : $286.80)

   6d3dTc6sAs

Showdown
PLR_2196866MQ: shows 4c5d6h7h (three of a kind, Sixs)
PLR_8648459EC: shows Ah6cTsKc (a full house, Aces full of Aces)
Hero: shows Jh7c9c8h (a pair of Jacks)
Uncalled bet ($46.25) returned to PLR_8648459EC
PLR_8648459EC collected $58.99 from side pot
PLR_8648459EC collected $225.81 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $286.8 | Rake $2.00
Board  6d3dTc6sAs
Seat 1: PLR_2196866MQ showed 4c5d6h7h and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 2: PLR_8648459EC showed Ah6cTsKc and won ($284.8) with a full house, Jacks full of Aces
Seat 3: Hero (button) showed Jh7c9c8h and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: PLR_4430917GA (small blind) mucked
Seat 6: PLR_1191775BG (big blind) mucked

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lucky331   . Sep 13 2015 09:58. Posts 1124

Aren't we crashed vs diamonds?

edit: diamonds plus something something.

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 Last edit: 13/09/2015 09:59

fira   United States. Sep 13 2015 10:19. Posts 6345

that much already in the pot... can't fold this

 Last edit: 13/09/2015 10:21

lucky331   . Sep 13 2015 13:47. Posts 1124

Ok. Thanks.


asdf2000   United States. Sep 14 2015 02:05. Posts 7695

This looks like a pretty clear fold to me.

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

4TM   United States. Sep 14 2015 05:38. Posts 712

Getting 2.4 to 1 we need ~42% to call here. We don't even quite have that with what looks like best case scenario so this has to be a fold.


careface_   Canada. Sep 14 2015 05:53. Posts 788

I do not see anything but a fold here


fira   United States. Sep 14 2015 09:23. Posts 6345

how can we need 42% when it's 3way allin with pot already at $63?

if pot is 0 then we need ~33% (maybe 36% since one guy is a little short) to call...... needing 42% makes no sense at all??

pretty sure we need about 28% or so. am i misreading something here??

 Last edit: 14/09/2015 09:25

BlizzY   Slovakia. Sep 14 2015 09:31. Posts 805


  On September 14 2015 04:38 4TM wrote:
Getting 2.4 to 1 we need ~42% to call here. We don't even quite have that with what looks like best case scenario so this has to be a fold.



don't know where it went wrong, but if we were getting 2,4 to 1 we would need 29,5%.

85/203 = ~0,42
85/(203+85) = 0,295

you need to add our stack to the calculation, otherwise you get such absurd number

 Last edit: 14/09/2015 09:40

taco   Iceland. Sep 14 2015 16:11. Posts 1793

This is just a read/stat decision.

I'd fold here almost always against regs. Super high variance move + probably marginally losing call.


traxamillion   United States. Sep 14 2015 17:45. Posts 10468

If you think you need 42% equity to call here please do not play PLO. You need closer to a quarter


taco   Iceland. Sep 14 2015 18:04. Posts 1793


  On September 14 2015 16:45 traxamillion wrote:
If you think you need 42% equity to call here please do not play PLO. You need closer to a quarter



What has PLO got anything to do with him fucking up pot odds? That would exclude him from all good poker play.


Luckb0xx   Germany. Sep 14 2015 19:23. Posts 2069

PLR_8648459EC: shows Ah6cTsKc (a full house, Aces full of Aces)


wat

pfffffff... 

TimDawg    United States. Sep 14 2015 20:57. Posts 10197

I think in all likelihood this probably is a fold because of the overwhelming majority of the time one of them will have diamonds

I'm just posting these hands for feedback and criticism. I am by no means a PLO expert, so I will probably have some hands with mistakes being made

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

careface_   Canada. Sep 14 2015 22:12. Posts 788

If we need 26%, someone is gonna have to explain to me how the hell we are gonna get a true 26%, when the FD is out there 99% of the time and when a lot of our outs are mostlikely taken.


asdf2000   United States. Sep 15 2015 00:21. Posts 7695

you need like 29.5%

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

traxamillion   United States. Sep 15 2015 00:53. Posts 10468


  On September 14 2015 21:12 careface_ wrote:
If we need 26%, someone is gonna have to explain to me how the hell we are gonna get a true 26%, when the FD is out there 99% of the time and when a lot of our outs are mostlikely taken.



first jammer has AA, 2nd has top set. there is a scenario in which u have it


traxamillion   United States. Sep 15 2015 00:55. Posts 10468

dunno where u are getting that someone is calling flop 100% with a fd; it didn't happen here and some garbage flushdraws with nothing else may have actually folded


4TM   United States. Sep 15 2015 01:48. Posts 712

Edit: math is hard : (

 Last edit: 15/09/2015 02:02

fira   United States. Sep 15 2015 02:11. Posts 6345

also is it worth mentioning that there's gonna be a $69 sidepot between us and the 2nd jammer? i'm not sure how this should affect our decision


MiPwnYa    Brasil. Sep 15 2015 02:57. Posts 5230

save the maths for the close spots imo
ez fold


cariadon   Estonia. Sep 15 2015 21:39. Posts 4019

all i have to say is...

Timedawg


 

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