I think this hand is high enough in our range where we can just snap without worrying too much about it.

On December 07 2015 19:03 handbanana21 wrote: I think this hand is high enough in our range where we can just snap without worrying too much about it.

agree, run into 66? Nice blocking 1010 too

On December 07 2015 19:03 handbanana21 wrote: I think this hand is high enough in our range where we can just snap without worrying too much about it.

what do we beat Kevin?

what bluffs can average reg have here? (assuming we know he is reg but otherwise readless)

Bluff range: AsXx

Value range: Lower flushes? Maybe? Other than that, boats and hoes

^what sort of AsXx bluff does he have here after flop and turn as utg pfr though
assuming he's a reg

I don't even think most would overbet jam the NF here, so that seems like a bad candidate to have as a bluff in this spot when I am completely uncapped

imo If he is going to have a bluff, he needs to block boats

^thou he might percieve nf as a hand you might herocall with. also not raising turn with some sets seems bad

On December 08 2015 17:59 lebowski wrote: ^what sort of AsXx bluff does he have here after flop and turn as utg pfr though assuming he's a reg

AK/AQo that he decides to bluff out with rather than try to take to showdown

On December 08 2015 22:02 TimDawg wrote: I don't even think most would overbet jam the NF here, so that seems like a bad candidate to have as a bluff in this spot when I am completely uncapped imo If he is going to have a bluff, he needs to block boats

If he thinks you call river with NF then he will do well to block the As. Doesn't actually matter how he plays his nut flushes does it? It is about your calling range. He can cram AsKd here on river repping boat only and if your calling range is NF+ he still does better blocking the As than one of the board cards.

If you are saying why would he care about blocking flushes when he reps boats only (implying you are only calling with boats or boat blocking hands) that would make sense except we are seriously considering calling the Khigh (given this king high blocks 1010 so it is actually good in that regard). If he really is that solid than yea Tim we probably should fold NF and call some much weaker hands with better blockers. Problem is he may actually vbet worse (because he assumes you call lighter than you should, or other reasons) or bluff with hands he shouldn't for similar reasons

Many can't help but valueraise that turn OOP vs an UTG pfr so while he can't cap you he may discount sets/2p turned boat and weight the top of your range heavier with flushes. He probably thinks he is the one with the uncapped range vs ur slightly weaker range and chooses this size to be as wide as possible with both bluffs and value in a spot he perceives as having the range advantage. OFC in reality you may c/c turn with everything but I wouldn't expect him to think that.

this would be a great hand to run some sims on tim.

might give u some new perspectives

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ppl underbluffing this spot is another story
and his cbet range will be different 3way :O

thanks for that dogmeat

i ended up folding but was able to see what he had (Bovada) ~ 66

not a bad fold obv, but KT is the best best non-boat hand to call in my mind

btw gto 3barrel bluffs in this spot were AsJ and AsK with some %

dog meat what kind of ranges did u assign villain? I'm pretty curious.

just normal 17% open ep and then i let it play out