Karma for trying to be cute I guess

When did you try to be cute in this hand?
Edit oh, you left 6.66 on purpose for river, nice

there is no justice in this world

On August 10 2016 15:21 lebowski wrote: When did you try to be cute in this hand? Edit oh, you left 6.66 on purpose for river, nice

that's some quick math

not even that cute, kinda standard. Could go slightly larger flop or slightly smaller turn but this is fine

lookes like something someone who has played for a week would do

On August 10 2016 20:27 traxamillion wrote: not even that cute, kinda standard. Could go slightly larger flop or slightly smaller turn but this is fine

no this isnt standard and the sizing is awful

so you go 2 on the flop and jam 10.5 11 into 8.5 on the turn? or even bigger on the flop? makes very little difference and this line gets value just fine

at higher stakes you would see something like 1.5 - 3.5 - jam on this board nearly always

baron himself probably goes with lemon's sizing. he likes 1/4 pot sometimes even less on tons of flops. especially ones like these

I highly doubt baron does that a lot OOP

I think he meant the turn sizing is awful. We have him utterly dominated and are forcing him to fold hands that should call smaller sizings

On August 12 2016 08:40 BlizzY wrote: I think he meant the turn sizing is awful. We have him utterly dominated and are forcing him to fold hands that should call smaller sizings

that i dont disagree with.

Was just cruising HSNL and came across this hand which is somewhat relevant as far as flop sizing goes

Originally Posted by Testi View Post
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $25/$50 - 4 players
Rail Hand History Converter

IReadB00ks (UTG): $4009.29 (80 bb)
LLinusLLove (BU): $5000 (100 bb)
Tochminator (SB): $5198 (104 bb)
mustang239 (BB): $2308.02 (46 bb)

Pre Flop: ($75)
1 fold, LLinusLLove (BU) raises to $126, Tochminator (SB) 3-bets to $450, 1 fold, LLinusLLove (BU) calls $324

Flop: ($950) 6 2 6 (2 players) 6d 6s 2h
Tochminator (SB) bets $309.04, LLinusLLove (BU) raises to $854.52, Tochminator (SB) calls $545.48

Turn: ($2659.04) 5 (2 players) 5h
Tochminator (SB) checks, LLinusLLove (BU) bets $823.68, Tochminator (SB) raises to $1647.36, LLinusLLove (BU) calls $823.68

River: ($5953.76) 8 (2 players) 8c
Tochminator (SB) bets $2246.12 (all-in), LLinusLLove (BU) calls $2048.12 (all-in)

Total pot: $10050 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
Tochminator (SB) shows 7 A (a pair of Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 64%, flop: 74%, turn: 70%, river: 0%)

LLinusLLove (BU) shows 4 8 (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
(Equity - pre: 36%, flop: 26%, turn: 30%, river: 100%)

LLinusLLove (BU) wins $10048

Hahaha good old Deepz
Anyways not sure what's the talk here dude's a huge fish it doesnt rly matter what you do as long as you get it in

PokerStars, 8-Game - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

joiso (BU): $29252.45 (293 bb)
w00ki3z. (BB): $18860.50 (189 bb)

Pre Flop: ($150) 7s Qc 7c
joiso (BU) raises to $300, w00ki3z. (BB) 3-bets to $1200, joiso (BU) calls $900

Flop: ($2400) 7 Q 7 (2 players) 6d
w00ki3z. (BB) bets $719.25, joiso (BU) calls $719.25

Turn: ($3838.50) 6 (2 players) Qh
w00ki3z. (BB) bets $2877, joiso (BU) calls $2877

River: ($9592.50) Q (2 players)
w00ki3z. (BB) checks, joiso (BU) bets $24456.20 (all-in), w00ki3z. (BB) calls $14064.25 (all-in)

Total pot: $37721 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
joiso (BU) shows 5 Q (a full house, Queens full of Sevens)
w00ki3z. (BB) shows 7 K (a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
joiso (BU) wins $37718.50

Sub 1/3rd otf pretty standard on many of these boards even oop

i had to reformat my laptop and lost a big DB of redbaron hands otherwise i could show u a bunch of 1/4th - 1/5th cbets as well

lol traximilion you made 5 posts trying to explain how the flop size is correct but everyone is obv talking about turn size, should be smaller

On August 13 2016 14:11 drone666 wrote: lol traximilion you made 5 posts trying to explain how the flop size is correct but everyone is obv talking about turn size, should be smaller

this

Well off top i said turn should be smaller. I didnt think it was standard just reasonable but slightly off and not cute. in this hand pre is obv standard and river is only size it can be based on flop turn bets. So only things up for debate were possibly flop and turn. Baal slammed the sizing as awful without specifying a street (which if the problem lies in one specific street people usually indicate it) so i just assumed he was being critical of flop as well. Oops

And since i thought flop was alright i focused on that, i thought turn was bad and agreed so didnt bring that up. Caradion and spitfire indicated they had a problem with flop even if baal and everyone else didnt so that elicited some of my response also

On August 12 2016 15:00 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Hahaha good old Deepz Anyways not sure what's the talk here dude's a huge fish it doesnt rly matter what you do as long as you get it in

I think sizing is at least as important when it's a fish.... You have a lot of his range dead to 2 outs with stacks shallow enough that you can bet much less and comfortably jam river, so why make it this huge on turn?

To have 6.66 left on the river duh :D

sizing doesn't matter