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Handnr: 1070257
Submitted by : aimless

PokerStars Zoom Hand #161711266785: Holdem No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2016/11/20 23:40:51 EET [2016/11/20 16:40:51 ET]
Table Halley 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: cjht1 ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: Longside1978 ($3.08 in chips)
Seat 3: elchivo1212 ($2 in chips)
Seat 4: Tulkata ($3.51 in chips)
Seat 5: Henryking666 ($2.79 in chips)
Seat 6: aimless0 ($4.54 in chips)
Longside1978: posts small blind $0.01
elchivo1212: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards
Dealt to aimless0 KdKs
Tulkata: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Henryking666: calls $0.06
aimless0: raises $0.18 to $0.24
cjht1: folds
Longside1978: folds
elchivo1212: folds
Tulkata: raises $3.27 to $3.51 and is all-in
Henryking666: folds
aimless0: folds
Uncalled bet ($3.27) returned to Tulkata
Tulkata collected $0.57 from pot
Tulkata: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $0.57 | Rake $0
Seat 1: cjht1 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Longside1978 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: elchivo1212 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Tulkata collected ($0.57)
Seat 5: Henryking666 folded before Flop
Seat 6: aimless0 folded before Flop

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aimless   Bulgaria. Nov 21 2016 11:19. Posts 12

no info.
shove timing: 3-4 secs

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BlizzY   Slovakia. Nov 21 2016 12:38. Posts 805

learning the ancient art of folding KK preflop is not something that will turn you from loser or BE player into winner, so really save yourself time with these and post some spots where you can actually get some advice, this is laughable. If he would have waited 2 secs more is it a call ?


aimless   Bulgaria. Nov 21 2016 13:30. Posts 12

newbies normally ask silly questions
If you cant, or dont want to teach without laughing at them, then why bother?
To make a right 350bb decision, even if it looks so simple to you is precious knowledge for me
I would really appreciate if you would help with that.


BlizzY   Slovakia. Nov 21 2016 14:49. Posts 805

effective stacks are 175bb, what 350bb decision?

You have infinite table selection on NL2 so if getting deep makes you uncomfortable to the point of 3b/folding KK then make a rule you will sit out every time you climb over some stacksize and play 100bb poker without added pressure. It is not like the guy you are playing deep is some fish - you said you have no info on him so why are you sitting there if your goal is not to put all the money in with KK ?
If you are sitting on a NL2 table where it is correct to fold KK to 4bshove even 200bb deep, you are doing something wrong. You would need a big sample on any particular player to make that read and people spazz preflop on any limit.

You have second best hand in this game and you think some random guy is shoving nuts only ,so you make a disciplined laydown. But how are you going to make money ?


Nitewin   United States. Nov 21 2016 14:51. Posts 1552

175BB

With more experience you'll soon realize not everyone is playing a mathematical strategy game. There's a lot of people treating it as a casino game or trying to make bluffs like they see on TV. When I first started playing poker, I'd fold AQ on AAK board when he kept showing strength, thinking he had AK. I made 5 into 3000 grinding low stakes. So the discipline you have is key to winning but also realize he could have shoved TT here thinking that he doesn't want to be bullied or AK but you block half the combinations of AK by holding 2 of the 4 kings.

Nice discipline.


Samsara   Bulgaria. Nov 21 2016 16:20. Posts 69

If I was trying to build a roll I wouldn't bother playing deep stack poker
And if you ain't gonna stack off with KK you can just call...it's better than squeeze/folding. I think it's a waste.


P.S.
And if you can read souls you wouldn't be playing NL2

Never hate your enemies, it affects you judgment. 

aimless   Bulgaria. Nov 21 2016 17:51. Posts 12

Thank yo all for the time and knowledge shared!
Much appreciated!


Trav94   Canada. Nov 21 2016 22:12. Posts 1789

You lose way more money long term 3bet/folding this hand, then you save by folding vs the times he has AA


traxamillion   United States. Nov 21 2016 23:55. Posts 10468

yea snapcall this


aimless   Bulgaria. Nov 21 2016 23:59. Posts 12

Thanks guys! Got it.


pluzich   . Nov 22 2016 14:06. Posts 828

Shoving 175BBs over a 3bet is pretty bad. The fact that utg+1 is still in the hand makes it maybe marginally less bad, but only marginally.

You have no reads, except that the guy JUST made a terrible play pre, and you have KK.

Snap it


YoMeR   United States. Nov 26 2016 02:34. Posts 12438

i throw the 4 $1 chip into the pot before he's even finished announcing all in.

eZ Life. 

cariadon   Estonia. Nov 26 2016 16:37. Posts 4019

haven't seen this for a while


 

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