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Handnr: 1071824
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Zoom Hand #165133590601: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2017/01/25 4:33:25 ET
Table C Carinae 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Redemptiion ($42.59 in chips)
Seat 2: Stroggos_nz ($50 in chips)
Redemptiion: posts small blind $0.25
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz JsQd
Redemptiion: raises $1 to $1.50
Stroggos_nz: calls $1

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.00)

   Ac4dKs
Stroggos_nz: checks
Redemptiion: checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $3.00)

   Ac4dKsTh
Stroggos_nz: bets $2
Redemptiion: raises $2 to $4
Stroggos_nz: raises $7.25 to $11.25
Redemptiion: raises $29.84 to $41.09 and is all-in
Stroggos_nz: calls $29.84

River (Pot : $85.18)

   Ac4dKsTh7s

Showdown
Stroggos_nz: shows JsQd (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Redemptiion: shows As3d (a pair of Aces)
Stroggos_nz collected $84.43 from pot

Summary
Total pot $85.18 | Rake $0.75
Board  Ac4dKsTh7s
Seat 1: Redemptiion (button) (small blind) showed As3d and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Stroggos_nz (big blind) showed JsQd and won ($84.43) with a straight, Ten to Ace

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 25 2017 14:59. Posts 9634

pretty sure this is the best hand to pot, overbet, shove on this flop onwards with this hand, mostly irrelevant of turn/river except when they pair up or something

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 Last edit: 25/01/2017 15:01

handbanana21   United States. Jan 25 2017 21:51. Posts 3037

 Last edit: 25/01/2017 21:52

handbanana21   United States. Jan 25 2017 21:53. Posts 3037


  On January 25 2017 13:59 Spitfiree wrote:
pretty sure this is the best hand to pot, overbet, shove on this flop onwards with this hand, mostly irrelevant of turn/river except when they pair up or something


we called the open.


BlizzY   Slovakia. Jan 26 2017 12:45. Posts 805

doesn't matter, when spitfiree sees AKx flop he just pots, overbets and shoves, very good strategy, villain must surely fold everything, right ? especially when he is stacking off with A3o.


lebowski   Greece. Jan 26 2017 14:58. Posts 9205

^well,he didn't stack off with A3o, he bluffed with it because of the AKx board

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 26 2017 18:03. Posts 9634

yeah thought we re OA


drone666   Brasil. Jan 27 2017 06:14. Posts 1825


  On January 26 2017 13:58 lebowski wrote:
^well,he didn't stack off with A3o, he bluffed with it because of the AKx board



ahn ?

Dont listen to anything I say 

lebowski   Greece. Jan 27 2017 16:08. Posts 9205


  On January 27 2017 05:14 drone666 wrote:
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ahn ?

idk what ahn means, what I'm saying is the guy probably bluffed this board because he saw it being AKxx and thought "range advantage", possibly completely disregarding straights, which is different than calling down a turn or river all in from hero on this board.

We don't know from this hand if he's a station as blizzy concluded, it's a weird bluff

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 27/01/2017 16:10

lebowski   Greece. Jan 27 2017 16:18. Posts 9205

or it could be the rare fish that massively overestimates top pair bad kicker and even takes a tricky line for value with it, who knows?
In that case Spitfiree's plan would be suicidal, but cmon everyone knows not to bluff such a guy

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

BlizzY   Slovakia. Jan 27 2017 16:50. Posts 805

Guy hasn't got a full stack so it is very likely he is a fish. I don't play HU, only when starting tables, but I don't see many regs in games I play use this strategy of shoving turn with TP Ace as a bluff, I think it is horrible.
It is probably a fish who doesn't like to fold pairs and to automatically give advice of barreling this texture (which is not something new and unknown) vs such player is almost as bad as villain's play.

 Last edit: 27/01/2017 16:56

traxamillion   United States. Jan 27 2017 19:49. Posts 10468

Yea lebowski he is just a massive fish, he holds no relevant blockers to what hero is repping here


lebowski   Greece. Jan 27 2017 20:19. Posts 9205


  On January 27 2017 15:50 BlizzY wrote:
Guy hasn't got a full stack so it is very likely he is a fish. I don't play HU, only when starting tables, but I don't see many regs in games I play use this strategy of shoving turn with TP Ace as a bluff, I think it is horrible.
It is probably a fish who doesn't like to fold pairs and to automatically give advice of barreling this texture (which is not something new and unknown) vs such player is almost as bad as villain's play.


sure he def seems fishy and the overall play is terrible regardless of the level of fishyness
Idk why it's so terrible when someone chimes in about how this specific hand is great to barel this texture (even after misreading the hand) though
Who cares if it doesn't apply vs a recreational or if you know it already, or if it's info that could be misapplied, next time you could read something that you hadn't thought of.

Discussions tend to shut down when ego gets in the way and while many enjoy the raging (like in the other hand), I think the lasting result of such behavior is that nobody will ever post HHs or advice after a while (it's fun with others but not when you are the one inside the drama)

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 27 2017 23:48. Posts 9634

I've been in LP for so long, that it would be almost uncharacteristic for the forum if someone didn't want to show him massive balls in all threads. You shouldn't get too hyped about it, different people express opinions differently, ignore the ego part of the posts as they only hurt the original poster anyway in the long run and focus on the part that makes sense. We all act out of ego at some point, but then again its a time and effort waste to point that out each time. Would be like trying to save every homeless kitty or stray dog. People usually realize later on that the tone wasn't really helpful for anyone and/or if what they said was out of hand.

Blizzy's post s fine except his passive aggressive tone designed to imply alpha maleness/ intellectual highground or whatever. Who cares though, I do that all the time too. Its the internet


traxamillion   United States. Jan 28 2017 03:02. Posts 10468

i drop the ego when posting here pretty much, doesnt serve myself or others. got enough drama elsewhere to not need it here


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 30 2017 03:35. Posts 5329

Villian needs a good plo hand like 4 queens to pull this off I think.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

traxamillion   United States. Feb 01 2017 08:09. Posts 10468

Libratus donks 14. They also shouhs hav3 pai more fof it to be an unbeatablbo




 

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