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Handnr: 1071866
Submitted by : pokercece

PokerStars Zoom Hand #165182239086: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2017/01/26 9:51:11 EET [2017/01/26 2:51:11 ET]
Table Aquarius Dwarf 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($45.59 in chips)
Seat 2: AshoNya ($241.18 in chips)
Seat 3: skyrokket1 ($11.90 in chips)
Seat 4: kverrulanto ($50.94 in chips)
Seat 5: Hone2709 ($84.02 in chips)
Seat 6: damiaodudu09 ($109.28 in chips)
AshoNya: posts small blind $0.25
skyrokket1: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero QsJcJdTc
kverrulanto: raises $1.25 to $1.75
Hone2709: raises $2.75 to $4.50
damiaodudu09: calls $4.50
Hero: calls $4.50
AshoNya: folds
skyrokket1: calls $4
kverrulanto: raises $22.75 to $27.25
Hone2709: raises $56.77 to $84.02 and is all-in
damiaodudu09: folds
Hero: calls $41.09 and is all-in
skyrokket1: calls $7.40 and is all-in
kverrulanto: calls $23.69 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($33.08) returned to Hone2709

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $164.12)

   AdQcJs

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $164.12)

   AdQcJs8s

River (Pot : $164.12)

   AdQcJs8s7h

Showdown
kverrulanto: shows 5cQd6c8d (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Hone2709: shows 7d9h6d4h (a pair of Sevens)
kverrulanto collected $10.70 from side pot-2
Hero: shows QsJcJdTc (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero collected $101.07 from side pot-1
skyrokket1: shows 5s9dJh5h (a pair of Jacks)
Hero collected $50.35 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $164.12 Main pot $50.35. Side pot-1 $101.07. Side pot-2 $10.70. | Rake $2
Board  AdQcJs8s7h
Seat 1: Hero (button) showed QsJcJdTc and won ($151.42) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: AshoNya (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: skyrokket1 (big blind) showed 5s9dJh5h and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: kverrulanto showed 5cQd6c8d and won ($10.70) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 5: Hone2709 showed 7d9h6d4h and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 6: damiaodudu09 folded before Flop

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pokercece   Bulgaria. Jan 26 2017 09:13. Posts 2

50% eq in 4 way allin, not bad

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taco   Iceland. Jan 30 2017 01:40. Posts 1793

He has 0.33 EV against 3 random hands and breaks even after rake against AA** + 2 random hands and does even worse against KK** + 2 random hands.

Since you only have 0.3 EV 3-way against aces and a random hand and the bigger stacks played it with more strength than the tiny stack this is basically just a bad play at worst and a swingy play at best.


YoMeR   United States. Jan 31 2017 01:09. Posts 12438

lmao 4 way cram session and noone has AAxx.

looks like a great game ;D

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 31 2017 13:06. Posts 5330

what are the highest winrates at plo50?? i read somewhere that it was impossible to beat it for a decent edge because it was a rakefest, but this was like 4-5years ago

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taco   Iceland. Feb 01 2017 03:17. Posts 1793


  On January 31 2017 12:06 Stroggoz wrote:
what are the highest winrates at plo50?? i read somewhere that it was impossible to beat it for a decent edge because it was a rakefest, but this was like 4-5years ago



There's always been players that beat PLO post-rakeback. You can put in so much fucking work in Omaha that is Omaha specific to gain an edge over someone who has only a few hundred thousand hands so imagine the edge against casuals.

Rake is disgusting though, when I played it was ~18-19bb/100 PLO25 | ~15-16bb/100 PLO50 | ~11-12 bb/100 PLO100 | 7-8bb/100 PLO200.

My advice would be to play $50 PLO or lower only as an investment towards improving. The hourly pay is atrocious even if you're already great at PLO and a Supernova.

 Last edit: 01/02/2017 03:18

TianYuan    Korea (South). Feb 01 2017 11:45. Posts 6817

Well clearly these guys are all monkeys, but in general this is not a good cold call pre.

Your hand is suffering negative range interference from multiple tight ranges (UTG r, utg1 3b). In general hands with broadways or that need an ace to make a straight are not suitable cold calls unless they are otherwise perfect (i.e. QJT9ds OK, QJT9ss no).

But given the crap they showed down.....

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traxamillion   United States. Feb 03 2017 07:01. Posts 10468


  On January 30 2017 00:40 taco wrote:
He has 0.33 EV against 3 random hands and breaks even after rake against AA** + 2 random hands and does even worse against KK** + 2 random hands.

Since you only have 0.3 EV 3-way against aces and a random hand and the bigger stacks played it with more strength than the tiny stack this is basically just a bad play at worst and a swingy play at best.



utg and Utg 1 should have a lot of range intereference like double AA. i think its not horrible but there are many better hands to go with. plo50 is basically a rake trap tho. 95% or more of ur winrate will go to stars

 Last edit: 03/02/2017 07:07

taco   Iceland. Feb 05 2017 02:41. Posts 1793


  On February 03 2017 06:01 traxamillion wrote:
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utg and Utg 1 should have a lot of range intereference like double AA. i think its not horrible but there are many better hands to go with. plo50 is basically a rake trap tho. 95% or more of ur winrate will go to stars


That range interference coincides with things that worsen Hero's hand. Not in a minor way - in a major way.


 

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