seems like a bad river call lol

river?

who's ohheycindy anyway??

ah turn call, he needs like 31% equity. I was tired when i posted this hand. actually on further analysis the call could be profitable, he has like 41% vs hands like AJ.

for sure always calling that turn jam

close but these guys do things right on the edge

Check raising this turn without a 9 or a 7 in your hand is pretty bad. Also having a 5 and a 4 is horrible for your blocking range to 85s 65s 64s all those are hands that your opponent could have and fold

those blockers are almost meaningless here, its fine.

There is no way you can construct reasonable range for Llinus where Cindy has more than 31% equity, putting all AJo in his range is just wishful thinking.

Meaningless blockers? Iol. Whats a meaningful blocker to have? He literally has the worst combination in the deck to make this move. Club in his hand and a 4 and a 5 are right above a 2 3 4 which you can disregard. So blocking a 4 and a 5 and clubs is literally the worst blockers you can have. Additionally having a hand like 67 or 89 significantly increases your équity against your opponents enitre range. But I guess those are meaningless blockers lol

There arn't any meaningful blockers to have, ( one's that make a big difference). if he's c/r bluffing he doesn't have a pair, so he can't have any hands in his range that block any two pairs, or pairs. if you block 7 or 9, fine, you block both value and bluffing hands. I didn't put 67 or 89 in his c/r range anyway because if you're turning pairs into bluffs like that your c/r range is far too loose and imbalanced and esp not 89 when it can easily c/c.

Who care's if he blocks 4 or 5 of clubs, villian's range is very wide, the fact that he has 5 high outweighs any minor improvement in equity from blocking those cards

On September 20 2017 12:46 zetzet wrote: There is no way you can construct reasonable range for Llinus where Cindy has more than 31% equity, putting all AJo in his range is just wishful thinking.

+1

On September 20 2017 12:46 zetzet wrote: There is no way you can construct reasonable range for Llinus where Cindy has more than 31% equity, putting all AJo in his range is just wishful thinking.

yeah, i was trying to figure out how a 25/50 crusher could play so badly, and Ajo basically is going to 3bet a lot of time under any reasonable assumption. I did some equilab and it's impossible for this call to be profitable even with all AJo and KJo combos. (I gave linuslove every almost every value hand that's 68o and better). You have to come up with some really bs ranges to make it to 31% equity.

On September 21 2017 08:08 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2017 12:46 zetzet wrote: There is no way you can construct reasonable range for Llinus where Cindy has more than 31% equity, putting all AJo in his range is just wishful thinking. yeah, i was trying to figure out how a 25/50 crusher could play so badly, and Ajo basically is going to 3bet a lot of time under any reasonable assumption. I did some equilab and it's impossible for this call to be profitable even with all AJo and KJo combos. (I gave linuslove every almost every value hand that's 68o and better). You have to come up with some really bs ranges to make it to 31% equity.

I think its easy to make that kind of mistake even if its actually a very basic pot odds one.


That being said puting his hand in that position with that sizing seems like a much bigger mistake and other sizings should have much better EV with his range

the funny thing is he only needs 28.7% equity to call the turn barrel that linuslove fires out, even if linuslove decided to check the river 100% of after the turn went bet-call. so at the very most, 28.7% equity is what he needs for a turn check call, but it is really a bit less. He decided to c/r and be put into a decision where he needed 31%.