Looks like a TX type hand or 88.

I think turn and and especially river is a bad card to triple barrel bluff in this 4bet pot because it hits some weirdly played hands and are low enough to warrant hero calls.

hhecklen could easily have
T9s, 56s, TT, 77, 99, JJ, QQ maybe even 34s as his nut range, his middling range that would be looking to hold would only be TJss, QTss, KTss, ATss and some of these could be too stubborn to fold given how low this board is.

What bluffs can LLinus have?

things that block nutty hands? 89s, A5os, A6os, AK?

Obviously this is all conjecture I havent played with these guys in too long and no idea what the dynamic is at the table. If i had to guess it was a very good fold and I would have most likely done the same if i had TX.

Any recommendation on tools to record ranges?

Like say save a configuration of UTG raise, MP raise etcetc?

I gave some preflop ranges and solved it. Not sure how accurate my preflop ranges i gave them are but i tried to make them quite accurate based on the hands i see these people show up with.

Linuslove should cbet flop 100% of the time, with entire 4bet range with their sizing.

HHecklen should checkraise flop to around $3250 or less on the flop with JJ 85% of the time, AT around 75-80% of the time, A4s around 50% of the time. he should c/r bluff with hands like A8s (only the combos with backdoor flush draw), and Ajs, and AJ/AQo. So he check calls flop with all the Tx weaker than AT. he check-calls flop with as weak as QJs as well.

linuslove will bet turn around 45% of the time, basically checking some overpairs, bottom pairs, Ak/AQ type hands. betting those overpairs sometimes as well, betting QQ/JJ nearly 100% of the time (for protection against overcards). betting draws like gutshots, sometimes betting random overcards, sometimes checking them.

linuslove jams river about 63% of the time, JJ and up for value, and all the best bluffing hands to do it. and obviously he gives up with the worst bluffing hands that got to river.

On September 27 2017 09:46 wobbly_au wrote: Looks like a TX type hand or 88. I think turn and and especially river is a bad card to triple barrel bluff in this 4bet pot because it hits some weirdly played hands and are low enough to warrant hero calls. hhecklen could easily have T9s, 56s, TT, 77, 99, JJ, QQ maybe even 34s as his nut range, his middling range that would be looking to hold would only be TJss, QTss, KTss, ATss and some of these could be too stubborn to fold given how low this board is. What bluffs can LLinus have? things that block nutty hands? 89s, A5os, A6os, AK? Obviously this is all conjecture I havent played with these guys in too long and no idea what the dynamic is at the table. If i had to guess it was a very good fold and I would have most likely done the same if i had TX.

yes, hecklen can have 56s, 77, 99, TT by river although you're supposed to raise 56s and especially 77 a lot on the turn. JJ will c/r flop, i didn't put QQ in preflop range although maybe i could have put some combos, i think most will be 5betting. I didn't put 34s in preflop range. his middling range is about exactly what you said it is except for ATss which raise flop.

I didn't put 98s in linus preflop range, i think that flats the 3bet 100%. if it was in preflop range however, it would check river 100% i think. far too strong of a hand to bluff with. I didn't give him A5o, or A6o for preflop either, i put hands like QTo and K9o instead for his offsuit hands. But yes pio would say to jam A5o or A6o on river 100% if they were in his preflop range probably. AK is jamming 50%, and even hands like K3s which i gave him, jam 50% on river.

not sure what the 'looks like Tx or 88' comment is supposed to mean, his range is clearly wider than that, he has a lot of backdoor diamonds, and other pairs. Tx should call about 90% of the time on this river.

"Tx should call about 90% of the time on this river."

How do you get that with the nutty range that is 4betting.... so confused.

I didn't give them them a nutty 4bet range, i gave them one that is close to what I think they have. One which includes bluffs and value, and is quite balanced and reasonably mixed. I don't see the problem with calling down Tx since it's the strongest hands in their range, if you fold Tx too often you are overfolding.

Don’t think TX has 27% equity versus his river range here. I would be super amazed if it did. Show me which ranges you put exactly and let’s stove it

On September 27 2017 13:10 wobbly_au wrote: Don’t think TX has 27% equity versus his river range here. I would be super amazed if it did. Show me which ranges you put exactly and let’s stove it

don't have time for that! stove is out of business, u should prolly download equilab or use the one equity calculator in pt4 if you have it. I don't see what's amazing about calling a 3barrel with top pair though.

On September 27 2017 21:16 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On September 27 2017 13:10 wobbly_au wrote: Don’t think TX has 27% equity versus his river range here. I would be super amazed if it did. Show me which ranges you put exactly and let’s stove it don't have time for that! stove is out of business, u should prolly download equilab or use the one equity calculator in pt4 if you have it. I don't see what's amazing about calling a 3barrel with top pair though.

Pokerstove is legit, for a river spot like this it’s all you need.

stroggoz is right. these guys are playing "nutty" ranges. they play very balanced poker

How would you know Trax?

poker stove doesnt even exist anymore, poker is another animal today