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Handnr: 1077397
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #170938659494: Holdem No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2017/05/26 10:28:23 ET
Table Pictor 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jinmay ($12731.14 in chips)
Seat 2: OtB_RedBaron ($11089.85 in chips)
Seat 4: LLinusLLove ($13136.30 in chips)
OtB_RedBaron: posts small blind $25
LLinusLLove: posts big blind $50
jinmay: posts the ante $10
OtB_RedBaron: posts the ante $10
LLinusLLove: posts the ante $10

Holecards(Odds)
jinmay: raises $75 to $125
OtB_RedBaron: folds
LLinusLLove: calls $75

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $275.00)

   JsKh9s
LLinusLLove: checks
jinmay: bets $363.60
LLinusLLove: calls $363.60

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,002.20)

   JsKh9s9d
LLinusLLove: checks
jinmay: bets $875.67
LLinusLLove: calls $875.67

River (Pot : $2,753.54)

   JsKh9s9dJd
LLinusLLove: bets $1474.22
jinmay: calls $1474.22

Showdown
LLinusLLove: shows QhTs (a straight, Nine to King)
jinmay: shows 9cJh (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
jinmay collected $5729.98 from pot

Summary
Total pot $5731.98 | Rake $2
Board  JsKh9s9dJd
Seat 1: jinmay (button) showed 9cJh and won ($5729.98) with a full house, Jacks full of Nines
Seat 2: OtB_RedBaron (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: LLinusLLove (big blind) showed QhTs and lost with a straight, Nine to King



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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 28 2017 02:07. Posts 6540

This is really good imo

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 28 2017 02:33. Posts 5330

yeah it's good. jinmay should raise river though,with all Kx except for K9, and all Jx,

https://gyazo.com/31cd8e6339577321fb8995a58ae74044

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 28 2017 04:34. Posts 6540

Name of tool? That looks fun you can do % of hand combos..
How does it figure out if you should raise or fold? Does it make assumptions of villan calling range ? HAS to right?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 28 2017 04:42. Posts 5330

using piosolver pro. costs $500 for 2 licences.

you plug in preflop ranges, stack and pot sizes, and postflop bet sizes and it tells u how to play an optimal strategy

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 28 2017 04:54. Posts 6540

How does it work out what opponents would do with that range? you have to input right?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 28 2017 04:56. Posts 5330

you don't even specify who the opponent is, or who you are. It calculates for 2 players what their ranges should be for each decision you input into the decision tree

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 28 2017 04:57. Posts 6540

Aaaa so its making the range balanced on river such that it doesnt matter if opponent calls, folds or raises (what size rasing tho? allin? cant solve for all i assume)

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traxamillion   United States. Sep 28 2017 06:01. Posts 10468

its an equilibrium solver. calcs GTO given the betsizes you allow


Baalim   Mexico. Sep 28 2017 08:15. Posts 34262


  On September 28 2017 03:57 wobbly_au wrote:
Aaaa so its making the range balanced on river such that it doesnt matter if opponent calls, folds or raises (what size rasing tho? allin? cant solve for all i assume)



GTO doesnt care opponents range, it assumes the opponent plays clarivoyantly and knows your strategy thus your strategy is unexploitable, on the solvers you input what sizing or if you one to construct your range with more than one size that often increases your EV but is hard to implement

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 28 2017 08:54. Posts 6540

I think people are ridiculous with this GTO crap.
GTO is insane and i would say impossible to solve, people are just playing what they think is GTO which means people who are in the meta and adjust faster can make the most playing exploitive.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 28 2017 09:02. Posts 5330

no one is thinking they are playing gto, they are trying to play simplified strategies that are close to gto, so maybe these strategies are a little bit exploitable, but not much. The way to adjust is to come up with a strategy that is closer to gto than your opponents 'near' gto strategy. And to exploit them for the tiny crumbs of ev that you can. we are actually at a point where the worlds best holdem player can breakeven for a year at 25/50 on stars.

yes its impossible to solve for many years to come, poker has something like 10^160 decisions

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lebowski   Greece. Sep 28 2017 20:31. Posts 9205

how did you construct jinmay's range? does he overbet a ton of flops? I mean I can't understand why he'd have eg AJo here

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 28 2017 20:33. Posts 5330

that pic doesn't say how many AJ he has here. It could be that 1/1000 AJ's get to the river this way.

same for Kx, if every Kx got to the river this way there is noo way he would be raising ever single one of them. Rather, there are very few Kx and he raise them all cause they block Kj

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lebowski   Greece. Sep 28 2017 20:41. Posts 9205


  On September 28 2017 19:33 Stroggoz wrote:
that pic doesn't say how many AJ he has here. It could be that 1/1000 AJ's get to the river this way.

same for Kx, if every Kx got to the river this way there is noo way he would be raising ever single one of them. Rather, there are very few Kx and he raise them all cause they block Kj


I see, ty

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