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Handnr: 1077424
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #167617448784: Holdem No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2017/03/15 10:50:35 ET
Table Nauheima 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: OtB_RedBaron ($10847.50 in chips)
Seat 4: 1nvoker ($4307.54 in chips)
Seat 6: LLinusLLove ($5485.50 in chips)
OtB_RedBaron: posts small blind $25
1nvoker: posts big blind $50
OtB_RedBaron: posts the ante $10
1nvoker: posts the ante $10
LLinusLLove: posts the ante $10

Holecards(Odds)
LLinusLLove: raises $101 to $151
OtB_RedBaron: raises $408.74 to $559.74
1nvoker: folds
LLinusLLove: calls $408.74

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,169.48)

   Jc7sQs
OtB_RedBaron: bets $969.95
LLinusLLove: calls $969.95

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $3,109.38)

   Jc7sQs5h
OtB_RedBaron: bets $1550
LLinusLLove: calls $1550

River (Pot : $6,209.38)

   Jc7sQs5h5d
OtB_RedBaron: checks
LLinusLLove: bets $2395.81 and is all-in
OtB_RedBaron: calls $2395.81

Showdown
LLinusLLove: shows Js8s (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
OtB_RedBaron: shows KsAh (a pair of Fives)
LLinusLLove collected $11029 from pot

Summary
Total pot $11031 | Rake $2
Board  Jc7sQs5h5d
Seat 2: OtB_RedBaron (small blind) showed KsAh and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 4: 1nvoker (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: LLinusLLove (button) showed Js8s and won ($11029) with two pair, Jacks and Fives



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Nitewin   United States. Sep 30 2017 14:26. Posts 1552

Beats 9T... and FD with no J or 5. Ks blocks many draws.

Was the shove for value or as a bluff? Does J8 fold to shove?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 30 2017 14:29. Posts 5330

the amount of money left in the pot faaaar outweighs any of this blocker stuff. it's a pretty clear value shove.

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Nitewin   United States. Sep 30 2017 14:55. Posts 1552

Right. But Ks is a bad card to have when hero calling because it blocks many bluffs.

As for value shove, he gets value from 99, TT, 7x, maybe AK/AT.
He blocks 88. Don't know if 66 and under plays like this.
He would lose to many hands trapping missed draws, such as KJ, Q9, AJ, or do all of these hands jam river?
If AK is calling down, JT easily calls too.

It's probably very close. What am I missing?

 Last edit: 30/09/2017 15:00

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 30 2017 15:12. Posts 5330

he very rarely gets value from pairs, and he will be betting 99, TT for value as well as J8s. he is value towning ace high mostly and the occasional 7x

I simmed it for you, and yes it is very close. He is calling with A2-A9s (spades), but does not bluffcatch with AsKx, however he does bluffcatch with half of AxKs.

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 30 2017 22:40. Posts 34262


  On September 30 2017 14:12 Stroggoz wrote:
he very rarely gets value from pairs, and he will be betting 99, TT for value as well as J8s. he is value towning ace high mostly and the occasional 7x

I simmed it for you, and yes it is very close. He is calling with A2-A9s (spades), but does not bluffcatch with AsKx, however he does bluffcatch with half of AxKs.




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