Cooler? What do you think about his shove? He blocks AA, KK. This is a fair bluff with 6 outs.

seem's kinda strange to jam AK there, it can't really be a bluff, since it never folds anything better, and it can
t really be value, since it never gets called by worse. ideally you should bluff with hands that have some equity but can't call down, and save hands like AK for calling down.

this concept of value and bluff is outdated
he should choose the decision that brings him the highest ev, sometimes making a worse hand fold is better than calling and letting villain realise his equity
not saying this is the case or his play is right

https://gyazo.com/40d895a62331fbb14a3127f9f92488e5
https://gyazo.com/34c45cff9f210b824d57be3a8fdfb02e

ah yeah, i agree with that drone to a large extent. The real explanation for not jamming AKo will come from many different factors that lead it to being the most +ev, and the one he mention is certainly a much bigger factor in 3bet and 4 bet pots.

nice to see hands being posted, keep it up stroggoz. wp w/e next one

so pio says it's mostly a call with AK right? also it prefers raising AQ instead

I'm guessing that's because 3-bet call range is significantly more K dense than Q dense, so AK will be dominating more often and benefits less from folding out the hands that missed.

On October 06 2017 21:56 HungarianGOD wrote: I'm guessing that's because 3-bet call range is significantly more K dense than Q dense, so AK will be dominating more often and benefits less from folding out the hands that missed.

what, no it isnt significantly more dense since AKo 4bets much more than AQo

I have been very lazy building my donk lead on 3Bet pots I should work on that

does pio like ur lead stroggoz?

On October 06 2017 11:52 Stroggoz wrote: it can't really be a bluff, since it never folds anything better

Does this mean when you bet here, you are also calling with your entire range?

I posted pics, pio is ok with my flop lead, it does it with JQs and JTs more than anything else, i mean it's super mixed as it always is, so it's fine with checking as well. I wan't to lead on these boards, for protection, they won't cbet as often on this board as other ones, and if they check back AK or K3s, or K9o, ect, they get free cards.

Linuslove would probably just jam flop here i guess, but i'm not sure why he prefers that sizing.

Interesting line by you in this hand. I think I like it...

Villain's play post flop seems spewy and very non GTO

I only play live in 4-5 card PLO games these days so developing a flop donking range as the OOP preflop caller of a 4bet is something I rarely think about and find fun to think about

i don't think it's particularly spewy to jam AK in his position, gto jams flops a ton in 4bet pots vs donk bet like this, but i don't think i would put his hand in a jamming range. pio really likes leading here if no one ever jam's vs it, since i always get to realize my equity, so there definitely should be a wide jamming range vs my lead.