lol why would he show?

because it's the type of thing fish find fun? (obv he's not a fish but i mean to keep the fish at the table entertained)

guys check out the ohheycindy podcast

yeah good podcast. everyone should be learning how to beat linuslove's strategy now, since that's the one everyone will be using at mid/low stakes soon. In fact, there already are a couple regs using linuslove's strategy at nl100, i've noticed.

Where can we find this strategy / podcast>?

On October 17 2017 06:14 hiems wrote: guys check out the ohheycindy podcast

basically he confirmed what Ive been saying about nodelocking on these last hands
he gave out way too much info, jesus

On October 17 2017 05:09 Baalim wrote: lol why would he show?

some games with gastrader you need to show the winning hand
thats the deal they made

On October 17 2017 06:32 Stroggoz wrote: yeah good podcast. everyone should be learning how to beat linuslove's strategy now, since that's the one everyone will be using at mid/low stakes soon. In fact, there already are a couple regs using linuslove's strategy at nl100, i've noticed.

what, how can a 100nl player implement Linus strategy?

lol @ trueteller part.

On October 17 2017 10:12 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2017 06:32 Stroggoz wrote: yeah good podcast. everyone should be learning how to beat linuslove's strategy now, since that's the one everyone will be using at mid/low stakes soon. In fact, there already are a couple regs using linuslove's strategy at nl100, i've noticed. what, how can a 100nl player implement Linus strategy?

seems like his strategy is good for mid or low stakes. i mean i'm not sure about everything. but if you look at big sample sizes of say 1million hands at nl100, people's fold to cbet is 50%, even when most regs bet 1/3 pot. so it's like, a good idea to cbet more than optimal and for low sizes like linus, even on wet board textures. and linus's small block bet sizings that he uses, i can imagine they would be very profitable at lower stakes because will raise them with value/bluff far less than optimal. just my opinion. and you can implement some of his strategy just by datamining his hh's and trying to understand them. Although, im sure the way he plays is for 25/50, a lot of the stuff he does will be good at lower stakes too, imo.

On October 17 2017 19:34 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On October 17 2017 10:12 Baalim wrote:   On October 17 2017 06:32 Stroggoz wrote: yeah good podcast. everyone should be learning how to beat linuslove's strategy now, since that's the one everyone will be using at mid/low stakes soon. In fact, there already are a couple regs using linuslove's strategy at nl100, i've noticed. what, how can a 100nl player implement Linus strategy? seems like his strategy is good for mid or low stakes. i mean i'm not sure about everything. but if you look at big sample sizes of say 1million hands at nl100, people's fold to cbet is 50%, even when most regs bet 1/3 pot. so it's like, a good idea to cbet more than optimal and for low sizes like linus, even on wet board textures. and linus's small block bet sizings that he uses, i can imagine they would be very profitable at lower stakes because will raise them with value/bluff far less than optimal. just my opinion. and you can implement some of his strategy just by datamining his hh's and trying to understand them. Although, im sure the way he plays is for 25/50, a lot of the stuff he does will be good at lower stakes too, imo.

I suppose, the good thing about underbets is that the mistakes are small, its much more difficult to overbet when you dont know exactly what you are doing

yeah, if you compare linuslove's one strategy where he bets his range with small sizings, with gto, the total ev difference is very small, but his actions are wildly different. There are spots i've analyzed where i think he is betting 100% (so i nodelock it), but pio bets 40% with same sizing, and the total ev difference between the two less than 0.3% even tho pio isn't playing even remotely the same frequencies. this seems to be true with a lot of spots. So linuslove is exploitable for very small amounts only, even though his playstyle is very far from gto, but i think that one strategy would print money at lowstakes because not enough people have seen it before, so they won't react accordingly.

On October 18 2017 00:48 Stroggoz wrote: yeah, if you compare linuslove's one strategy where he bets his range with small sizings, with gto, the total ev difference is very small, but his actions are wildly different. There are spots i've analyzed where i think he is betting 100% (so i nodelock it), but pio bets 40% with same sizing, and the total ev difference between the two less than 0.3% even tho pio isn't playing even remotely the same frequencies. this seems to be true with a lot of spots. So linuslove is exploitable for very small amounts only, even though his playstyle is very far from gto, but i think that one strategy would print money at lowstakes because not enough people have seen it before, so they won't react accordingly.

yeah but dont people who have this insight and intellect to realize that and adapt it properly to their game are past beyond 100nl?

On October 18 2017 02:13 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2017 00:48 Stroggoz wrote: yeah, if you compare linuslove's one strategy where he bets his range with small sizings, with gto, the total ev difference is very small, but his actions are wildly different. There are spots i've analyzed where i think he is betting 100% (so i nodelock it), but pio bets 40% with same sizing, and the total ev difference between the two less than 0.3% even tho pio isn't playing even remotely the same frequencies. this seems to be true with a lot of spots. So linuslove is exploitable for very small amounts only, even though his playstyle is very far from gto, but i think that one strategy would print money at lowstakes because not enough people have seen it before, so they won't react accordingly. yeah but dont people who have this insight and intellect to realize that and adapt it properly to their game are past beyond 100nl?

yeah i think so. Just saying for anyone who is motivated and is at lowstakes, i think they would do well if they applied some of his strategies. anyway, im doing a zoom challenge atm and i have adopted a lot of his exploits so i hope it turns out well

which part are we talking about here, the small donk turn?

Heh it's funny that I got both Limitless and Linnus on Skype and did sweats with both at NL25. And here I'm glad to be beatin NL100 couple years later while everyone sees them as jesuses of poker now :D

sounds more sad than funny to me :D

if you read about them, you will see that they had no lives during this period of time
not sure if its worth

edit: should refrain that im talking about linus, dont know about limitless

where do i read about them? thought they were very private.

this thread is pretty funny https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...p-challenges/nl10-nl100-6max-1313576/

hmm I read in some PG&C thread
maybe was this one, not sure

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...challenges/deeepz-sne-2015-a-1504879/

remember him talking about when he moved to malta and only played and studied 24/7 and people were making fun of him for being a nerd

On October 18 2017 18:55 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Heh it's funny that I got both Limitless and Linnus on Skype and did sweats with both at NL25. And here I'm glad to be beatin NL100 couple years later while everyone sees them as jesuses of poker now :D

I've seen so many ppl I played with rise to the top, feels bad man.


on the other hand I've also seen so many also fall.

On October 18 2017 22:49 drone666 wrote: if you read about them, you will see that they had no lives during this period of time not sure if its worth edit: should refrain that im talking about linus, dont know about limitless

limitless talked about some crazy shit where he was essentially balancing being both a pro athlete and trying to work his way up from the micros or lowstakes at the same time pretty much not sleeping, haha. (was on joeingram podcast).

On October 19 2017 00:39 drone666 wrote: hmm I read in some PG&C thread maybe was this one, not sure https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...challenges/deeepz-sne-2015-a-1504879/ remember him talking about when he moved to malta and only played and studied 24/7 and people were making fun of him for being a nerd

I read through the thread, linus only had a 2.5bb/100 winrate over 1million hands, interesting, looks like he improved a lot when he moved up to zoom 500 though.

On October 19 2017 03:36 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On October 18 2017 22:49 drone666 wrote: if you read about them, you will see that they had no lives during this period of time not sure if its worth edit: should refrain that im talking about linus, dont know about limitless limitless talked about some crazy shit where he was essentially balancing being both a pro athlete and trying to work his way up from the micros or lowstakes at the same time pretty much not sleeping, haha. (was on joeingram podcast).

What sport?

On October 18 2017 22:49 drone666 wrote: if you read about them, you will see that they had no lives during this period of time not sure if its worth edit: should refrain that im talking about linus, dont know about limitless

Well in my eyes it was 100% Natural for the situation of both at the time they went full-time and it's completely worth it
I probably would've done the same at their age, most people would I'd say.
One Quits full-time pro handball to play poker and due to injuries and has this hole in his life and automated hard work processes that come from training at higher level that just dissipated.
And the other one quits a kinda prestigious school in a highly developed country at 19 and moves to a grindhouse in Malta (I like to think I helped talk him into that a bit) in the first year of school, just imagine the pressure from parents etc. and so much to prove.


And it was barely a couple years for both to shoot to the top remember while both were young, in their spot don't think there's any questions if it's worth it, it clearly was.

I did a podcast with Limitless when he was just hitting NL1000 and dabbling into higher stakes at WPN before anyone knew him
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/39148/

yea I agree that if you going to reach their level its worth ( in my personal opinion ), but I meant that might not be worth to try because you dont know if you gonna go far as them
you could put the same amount of effort, fuck your social life and still be a bum at poker these days

On October 19 2017 05:56 TianYuan wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2017 03:36 hiems wrote:   On October 18 2017 22:49 drone666 wrote: if you read about them, you will see that they had no lives during this period of time not sure if its worth edit: should refrain that im talking about linus, dont know about limitless limitless talked about some crazy shit where he was essentially balancing being both a pro athlete and trying to work his way up from the micros or lowstakes at the same time pretty much not sleeping, haha. (was on joeingram podcast). What sport?

I think it was handball

Little gem in Cindy's podcast about node locking

What do you think Cindy was going to say in the podcast about his 1010 3bet in the 762 hand vs oborra J9dd? He was saying he thinks oborra will be raising a ton of FDs if he thinks... then stopped himself. Was it as simple as oborra raising wider in response to a high Cbet frequency from Cindy on that board (in turn making cindy's flop 3bet better)?

On October 19 2017 22:15 traxamillion wrote: Little gem in Cindy's podcast about node locking

https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1153212/Xx_Xx_by_Stroggoz.html

He was probably gona mention flop 3betting frequencies, not sure what else it could be.

you can raise a lot of flush draws if you get 3bet less often on the flop. If you arn't getting 3bet much on flop, you can c/r, get them to fold a ton and get to realize your equity without having to make a pretty breakeven decision getting it in. J9dd seems pretty light though, basically worst flush draw you can jam in there, blocks 89dd .

On October 20 2017 01:08 drone666 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2017 22:15 traxamillion wrote: Little gem in Cindy's podcast about node locking https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1153212/Xx_Xx_by_Stroggoz.html

lol dude we know that, even dream machines ilke Oborra do node locking

On October 20 2017 01:11 Stroggoz wrote: He was probably gona mention flop 3betting frequencies, not sure what else it could be. you can raise a lot of flush draws if you get 3bet less often on the flop. If you arn't getting 3bet much on flop, you can c/r, get them to fold a ton and get to realize your equity without having to make a pretty breakeven decision getting it in. J9dd seems pretty light though, basically worst flush draw you can jam in there, blocks 89dd .

good point he was probably going to talk about meta mistakes in this case the 3b

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