Showdown Stroggos_nz: shows (a pair of Jacks)
sevenzyj: shows (a pair of Sevens)
Stroggos_nz collected $383.37 from pot
Summary Total pot $386.12 | Rake $2.75
Board
Seat 1: sevenzyj (button) showed and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 2: Stroggos_nz (small blind) showed and won ($383.37) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: TaxHere (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: gle100 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: denburg folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: absolutimão folded before Flop (didnt bet)
profitable to either call or jam 87ss, but calling is better.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
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fira   United States. Feb 05 2018 19:09. Posts 6345
hmm interesting. i guess the logic behind calling is that if they have AhKx or AxKh and we call, they are forced to jam the turn, at which point we would call again (or fold on a A or K?). and if we jam flop they will just fold their AK AQ or whatever bluff
for AJs, do those numbers basically mean that it's approximately the same EV to bet 170, bet 48, bet 24, bet 14, or check?
also for IP it looks like J7s is always a call while J9s is almost always a raise. that's very strange considering they are basically the same hand o.o
Last edit: 05/02/2018 19:22
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lebowski   Greece. Feb 05 2018 19:21. Posts 9205
what are bet/folding after we pot flop here? I can't understand the chart T_T
edit: Fira too fast with his reply I thought I understood something by the chart but not really
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
Last edit: 05/02/2018 19:29
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fira   United States. Feb 05 2018 19:26. Posts 6345
i was thinking we would pot/fold hands like AKo and AQo with a heart
betting small seems to accomplish little considering almost any 2 cards in IP's range could at least call on this board
edit: seems like the chart is saying that most AK/AQ will actually be betting a small-medium size. i don't think it's saying anything about what happens when facing a raise, but i'd assume those hands are folding
yeah actually betting medium size and folding to a raise with AK/AQ would be better than potting and then folding. we lose a bit too much from our bet in the latter case, and we'd have a hand that can almost call.