AA?
KdKx?

Does bigger flush ever play this line?
Does JJ / 99 / 66 ever cc turn?

6x probably barrels turn

Not much concerned about full houses, his value range is almost all flushes and eventually AA but is rare to play like this

seems like a spot that would be way underbluffed by 6max standards,
is it that different HU?

this has to be near top of your range, so if u fold this it seems a bit exploitative

On May 03 2019 06:36 fira wrote: this has to be near top of your range, so if u fold this it seems a bit exploitative

what sort of bluffs do you think he has like this? KdK is the only one that comes to mind.
He can't rep boats with his line and 6xdd doesn't exist so the turn c/c seems like 9xdd or some sort of combo draw
Meanwhile we have a ton of flushes and a few boats, if people c/c turn weak to bluff such rivers here HU then it's a completely different game from 6max

KK never cbets this flop, and esp this size
the fold is fine, is breakeven call on PIO and this seems like a spot people underbluff

results?

I folded

KdJx

On May 03 2019 20:22 lebowski wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2019 06:36 fira wrote: this has to be near top of your range, so if u fold this it seems a bit exploitative what sort of bluffs do you think he has like this? KdK is the only one that comes to mind. He can't rep boats with his line and 6xdd doesn't exist so the turn c/c seems like 9xdd or some sort of combo draw Meanwhile we have a ton of flushes and a few boats, if people c/c turn weak to bluff such rivers here HU then it's a completely different game from 6max

what boats do we have? A6s maybe... that's about it. we have a lot of flushes sure, but they are basically the top of our range, so we have to be careful how many of them we fold. ultimately it doesn't matter what exactly he is bluffing with here, if we are going to fold most of our hands then it may be better not to bet at all (not what i'm recommending).

i think folding is okay here given that our flush is relatively low, but we certainly can't be folding most of our flushes imo

this isn't a spot where the opponent pretty much always has the nuts (if it is, we may not want to be betting). it's just a spot where he may not have many ideal hands to bluff with. but if we are going to be folding something as strong as (or even stronger) than what we have, it makes a lot of hands turn into viable bluffs, hands as strong as like AxKd and other top pair hands

On May 05 2019 13:16 fira wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2019 20:22 lebowski wrote:   On May 03 2019 06:36 fira wrote: this has to be near top of your range, so if u fold this it seems a bit exploitative what sort of bluffs do you think he has like this? KdK is the only one that comes to mind. He can't rep boats with his line and 6xdd doesn't exist so the turn c/c seems like 9xdd or some sort of combo draw Meanwhile we have a ton of flushes and a few boats, if people c/c turn weak to bluff such rivers here HU then it's a completely different game from 6max what boats do we have? A6s maybe... that's about it. we have a lot of flushes sure, but they are basically the top of our range, so we have to be careful how many of them we fold. ultimately it doesn't matter what exactly he is bluffing with here, if we are going to fold most of our hands then it may be better not to bet at all (not what i'm recommending). i think folding is okay here given that our flush is relatively low, but we certainly can't be folding most of our flushes imo this isn't a spot where the opponent pretty much always has the nuts (if it is, we may not want to be betting). it's just a spot where he may not have many ideal hands to bluff with. but if we are going to be folding something as strong as (or even stronger) than what we have, it makes a lot of hands turn into viable bluffs, hands as strong as like AxKd and other top pair hands

2 bi deep JJ is in our range too
it's not only that he doesn't have many ideal hands to bluff with, I'd assume he's not expecting folds from flushes, especially after somewhat capping himself

On May 04 2019 19:39 drone666 wrote: I folded

seems like a solid fold...what hand you calling down to here vs this player in these spots?

89dd is a good start, esp because blocking the 9d, which is a flush draw card that he should always check turn with

also strong flushes are more likely combined with the 9d, like K9s Q9s T9s are more likely combos to 3bet than K8s, Q8s T8s for example, so its a very important blocker

On May 06 2019 04:09 drone666 wrote: 89dd is a good start, esp because blocking the 9d, which is a flush draw card that he should always check turn with also strong flushes are more likely combined with the 9d, like K9s Q9s T9s are more likely combos to 3bet than K8s, Q8s T8s for example, so its a very important blocker

cool ty for quality post