PokerStars Zoom Hand #223727729058: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2021/02/12 13:55:50 ET
Table Aenna 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: maxlljr ($235.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Stroggos_nz ($271.79 in chips)
Seat 3: valek929 ($40.07 in chips)
Seat 4: saymynameFort ($235.73 in chips)
Seat 5: rodckz ($218.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Jokerstar190 ($239.20 in chips)
Stroggos_nz: posts small blind $1
valek929: posts big blind $2
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz 
saymynameFort: folds
rodckz: folds
Jokerstar190: folds
maxlljr: raises $3 to $5
valek929 is disconnected
Stroggos_nz: raises $15 to $20
valek929: folds
maxlljr: raises $26 to $46
Stroggos_nz: calls $26
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $94.00)
Stroggos_nz: checks
maxlljr: bets $22.81
Stroggos_nz: raises $22.81 to $45.62
maxlljr: calls $22.81
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $185.24)
Stroggos_nz: bets $54.75
maxlljr: calls $54.75
River (Pot : $294.74)
Stroggos_nz: bets $125.42 and is all-in
maxlljr: calls $89.33 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($36.09) returned to Stroggos_nz
Showdown
Stroggos_nz: shows (a flush, Ace high)
maxlljr: shows 
(a pair of Aces)
Stroggos_nz collected $470.65 from pot
Summary
Total pot $473.40 | Rake $2.75
Board
Seat 1: maxlljr (button) showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Stroggos_nz (small blind) showed and won ($470.65) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: valek929 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: saymynameFort folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: rodckz folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Jokerstar190 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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Jamie217 Canada. Feb 13 2021 16:03. Posts 4351 | | | |
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dnagardi Hungary. Feb 13 2021 18:30. Posts 1777 | | |
so your opp played it perfectly and you luckedboxed it
or am I missing something
also how can calling a 4bet oop with A7s be profitable? |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Feb 13 2021 21:18. Posts 5329 | | |
Your missing something for sure. You can just look up the answers in the sim these days to check if A7s is a profitable defend or not, instead of relying on intuition. |
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Nitewin United States. Feb 13 2021 23:14. Posts 1552 | | |
You're*  |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Feb 13 2021 23:59. Posts 15163 | | | |
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Oddeye Canada. Feb 14 2021 01:39. Posts 5106 | | |
very interesting, so you basically x minr most low dry flop then cbet turn then xf? Obv it always depend but in general. I wouldn't think that was a good defend either but I'm surprised, and I honestly do not get it, not saying it's wrong but it sure does seem |
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Oddeye Canada. Feb 14 2021 01:46. Posts 5106 | | |
I don't think the 4b is too small, maybe could make it slightly bigger since it's 120bb but the sizing is def within the normal range (2.2~2.4x is fine INP). I'd make it bigger next time if someone called me with A7s. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Feb 14 2021 14:27. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On February 14 2021 00:39 Oddeye wrote:
very interesting, so you basically x minr most low dry flop then cbet turn then xf? Obv it always depend but in general. I wouldn't think that was a good defend either but I'm surprised, and I honestly do not get it, not saying it's wrong but it sure does seem |
Man
the good old days without a RNG :D |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Feb 14 2021 14:29. Posts 15163 | | |
It's a common theme when you work with solvers and look at what HS players do
"if any of the older school guys saw you do this they'd think you are retarded" :D |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Feb 14 2021 14:42. Posts 5329 | | |
In my view people pick their IP 3bet/4bet sizes to be a little too small. Most z200 regs are under 2.5x for 4bets, it can be exploited by calling wide and checkfolding flops at a highish frequency. I'm not sure why this is such a common mistake since the sims have been out there for a while now. |
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dnagardi Hungary. Feb 14 2021 22:34. Posts 1777 | | |
| | On February 14 2021 13:29 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
"if any of the older school guys saw you do this they'd think you are retarded" :D |
yea thats actually pretty much me. I was playing NL200 10 years ago, and don't know anything about sims or solvers. But if this is what a profitable line is today when 2 regs are playing then poker changed extremely. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Feb 15 2021 23:54. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On February 14 2021 21:34 dnagardi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2021 13:29 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
"if any of the older school guys saw you do this they'd think you are retarded" :D |
yea thats actually pretty much me. I was playing NL200 10 years ago, and don't know anything about sims or solvers. But if this is what a profitable line is today when 2 regs are playing then poker changed extremely.
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not sure about 4B pots
but in 3bet pots you will see a cbet + minraise + min-re-raise quite a bit lol
And you use RNG, a lot of hands like these will be close to 0 EV so you mix them in some of the time |
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