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Handnr: 116932
Submitted by : LNinja

Full Tilt Poker Game #1431489850: Table Orvis (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:33:01 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 1: Frazzez ($67.20)
Seat 2: Icey Mike ($24.50)
Seat 3: Tgr0ss ($25.95)
Seat 4: eovi7 ($13.90)
Seat 5: LNinja ($28.50)
Seat 6: sofakngdrunk ($18.20)
LNinja posts the small blind of $0.10
sofakngdrunk posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to LNinja JhJc
Frazzez calls $0.25
Icey Mike folds
Tgr0ss folds
eovi7 calls $0.25
LNinja raises to $1.25
sofakngdrunk folds
Frazzez calls $1
eovi7 calls $1

Flop (Pot : $4)

   KsJs4d
LNinja bets $2
Frazzez raises to $4
eovi7 folds
LNinja raises to $10
Frazzez calls $6

Turn (Pot : $24)

   KsJs4dQc
LNinja bets $4.25
Frazzez calls $4.25

River (Pot : $32.5)

   KsJs4dQcTd
LNinja checks
Frazzez bets $7.75
LNinja calls $7.75

Showdown
Frazzez shows AhKc (a straight, Ace high)
LNinja mucks
Frazzez wins the pot ($45.60) with a straight, Ace high
LNinja adds $19.75

Summary
Total pot $48 | Rake $2.40
Board:  KsJs4dQcTd
Seat 1: Frazzez showed AhKc and won ($45.60) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 2: Icey Mike didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Tgr0ss didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: eovi7 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: LNinja (small blind) mucked JhJc - three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: sofakngdrunk (big blind) folded before the Flop

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The72o   Zimbabwe. Dec 18 2006 10:39. Posts 6112

lol @ turn bet

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CrownRoyal   United States. Dec 18 2006 10:39. Posts 11385

LNinja bets $4.25
?

That's a terrible line. go all-in on the turn.

WHAT IS THISLast edit: 18/12/2006 10:40

LNinja   Canada. Dec 18 2006 10:44. Posts 328

It is easy to say that when you now see the result.

But I wanted to keep him in for a last river vbet.

he only has 4 outs to a straight if he has AK, and the two pairs will call me regardless of my bet on turn BUT if he had an lone ace that bet woudda kept him in there, whereas if I had went all in, there was a chance he'd fold there.

With 4 outs, I was willing to take my chances.

 Last edit: 18/12/2006 10:51

whaackum   United States. Dec 18 2006 10:45. Posts 1586

retarded reasoning, bet more unless you want to get drawn out on

The W.Last edit: 18/12/2006 10:45

CrownRoyal   United States. Dec 18 2006 10:50. Posts 11385

so you KNEW that he had AKos on the turn and yet still called the river? impressive.

WHAT IS THISLast edit: 18/12/2006 10:51

LNinja   Canada. Dec 18 2006 10:53. Posts 328

I re-edited my post, got a bit frustrated because this guy is outdrawing me on the river.

I was still a big favorite and my goal was not to have him fold if he had one pair with the Ace.

Would he have had ONE ace, and missed the river as he should most of the time and called another v-bet, this would have been a great play, or even hit his two pairs on river, woudda been great play.

Would he have had TWO pairs, re-raised my turn as he should have most of the time, and I went all-in, this would have been a great play.

Would he have had a lower SET, re-raised my turn as he should have most of the time, and I went all-in, this would have been a great play.

So this play covers most possible situations, except if I go all-in on turn the lone Ace might fold, with only 2 possible outs in this case 6 for AK which I did consider, I was a big enough of a favorite to justify this play.

Most of the time when I play like this I stack the top pair that has improved his hand on the turn or river a very large percentage of the time wheras I do not do this when I go all-in.

So basically, the two pairs and lowersets will put their money in no matter how much I bet, that is not the issue here.

The idea was to maximize revenue against hands like AK, A9s,A8s etc. and reel them in with a vbet on turn and a little more on river, since there is already so much money in the pot.

 Last edit: 18/12/2006 11:07

whaackum   United States. Dec 18 2006 11:04. Posts 1586

no, just no

bet turn more, at least 15, that way you get moeny in before the river, and if you are going to value bet the river then you bet more and still have a good chance of getting called

your reasoning is just terrible, period

The W. 

LNinja   Canada. Dec 18 2006 11:13. Posts 328

In retrospect I could agree that this bet was too little and that I should have bet more on turn, 11-14.

But that is a mathematical error where I gave him odds to call

I would disagree to say that my thinking is just terrible period, anyhow thanks for your input.


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Dec 18 2006 11:31. Posts 10896

jai pas vraiment toute lu mec mais
TON BUT C DLA FAIRE PAYER SI Y DRAW
c ca ton but, c pas dessayer dpas lfaire folder
si tu veux vraiment ''pas le faire fold'' call son reraise pis check raise la turn
mais bon


Fraser   Canada. Dec 18 2006 11:48. Posts 4605

lol "folder"?


 

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