Submitted by : Daut

PokerStars Game #4093157484: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/02/25 - 12:07:38 (ET)
Table 'Cybele III' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: slickster998 ($352.50 in chips)
Seat 2: tollamus ($119.75 in chips)
Seat 3: solheim79 ($113.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Sykoh ($94.95 in chips)
Seat 5: lolelov ($25.95 in chips)
Seat 6: wams64 ($97 in chips)
Seat 7: Daut44 ($100 in chips)
Seat 8: Gonzomaniac ($60 in chips)
Seat 9: 1 baby jesus ($35 in chips)
wams64: posts small blind $0.50
Daut44: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Daut44
Gonzomaniac: raises $1 to $2
1 baby jesus: folds
slickster998: folds
tollamus: folds
solheim79: folds
Sykoh: calls $2
lolelov: folds
wams64: folds
Daut44: calls $1

Flop (Pot : $6.5)

   
Daut44: bets $4
Gonzomaniac: calls $4
Sykoh: calls $4

Turn (Pot : $18.5)

   
Daut44: bets $11
Gonzomaniac: calls $11
Sykoh: calls $11

River (Pot : $51.5)

   
Daut44: bets $31
Gonzomaniac: folds
Sykoh: raises $31 to $62
Daut44: calls $31

Showdown
Sykoh: shows (three of a kind, Sixes)
Daut44: mucks hand
Sykoh collected $172.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $175.50 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: slickster998 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tollamus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: solheim79 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Sykoh showed and won ($172.50) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: lolelov (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: wams64 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Daut44 (big blind) mucked
Seat 8: Gonzomaniac folded on the River
Seat 9: 1 baby jesus folded before Flop (didn't bet)

check call river?
still 2 people in at that point, dont really know where i am cause of the flat calls

fold river?
there's a decent amount im losing to as well

nah

played fine here.

what a stupid donkey calling with 66 on that flop, i prob woulda potted it on the flop, a lot of donkies with AK/AQ/AJ/Ax in general will not lay their hand down

I definitely re-raise pre-flop.

Apart from that for me it's more or less fine.

you would reraise an UTG raiser from the big blind with ATs?
i dont think that's smart poker

He min bet, I don't know if you can exactly call someone like that a "raiser" =].

They don't seem particularly strong. You have a decent hand and position. For me a re-raise seems in order. At the very least you'll know a bit better where you're at.

Preflop I would definitely not reraise

I like the way you played it here ryan.

Perhaps I'm looking at it too much from a 6handed perspective, I might be wrong.

Against a solid opponent that's a situation where you should fold the river. I never do and always lose in that situation.

Then of course you lose a 1buy-in sized pot without really knowing where you were at, folding to a minraise on the river. But I really find that at 100 NL, 200 NL, especially in full ring games, when someone minraises a large bet on the river, it's a monster. Any hand considered a monster on this board beats you. Making folds like this can make a difference between a 5bb/100 and a 10bb/100 winning player. That said, I don't make this fold myself usually, but find it a leak in my game and trying to fix it

Also you left yourself like 20 behind when you called on the river, having put in 80 in the pot? That seems like a real crying call, as if you're calling knowing you're beat, cause if you were happy calling, you'd probably raise.

I find your bets somewhat small in relation to the pot, if that's your standard bet size. 4 into 6.5, I'd make the bet 5 or 6. 11 into 18, i'd make 13-14. Yeah it's a fairly safe board but bets like this tend to either give opponents decent drawing odds, or give away strength if you only bet like this with monsters, or have them raise you to see what it's all about, with just about any hand, which is misleading to you.

I think the check-call the river is the best course of action. If you reraise a UTG raiser preflop with AT in a .50/1.00 game you are a losing player and I can garentee that.

he would be OOP, no reraise pf, thats just dumb

i would try to check raise on the flop, hoping to trap AX hand. unless your opponent has been particularly unaggressive or you have a LAG image at this table where you have a reputation for betting aggressively, check-raising on the flop is usually best.

2 callers behind you on a board with no draws becomes iffy, IMO because it smells like a slowplayed set trying to trap. betting the turn here is still the correct play.

check call the river.

make that check-call the river, fold to a push.

Ohhhh, BigBalls was on the small blind, I thought he was on the button, my bad, sorry.

to all of you idiots saying check/call the river u suck at poker
also reraising pf is also retarded oop

Pot that flop nigga. I always decide to play hands like these real fast. But other than that I like it. maybe a check call would work out well here too. But I usually go full steam ahead a lot of the time anyways.

This hand seems like a normal suckout/badbeat. looks like u played it fine, with some donk who just got lucky.

besides playing more aggresive on this flop (which i doubt would make a difference anyway) this seems standard. On the river it really feels as if he may have QK or AJ, 66 is the one hand i will almost never expect here, terrible play by him

Actually now that i think about it he needs about 22:1 implied odds on the flop, so he needs to win $88 here, he wins $$62 on the river, $22 on the turn + the pot before the turn. This was actually +EV play amazingly enough.

A bigger bet on the flop would trim these implied odds much more

On February 25 2006 14:10 frozzor wrote: to all of you idiots saying check/call the river u suck at poker also reraising pf is also retarded oop

agree

folding is possible though, miniraise river is usually a very strong hand. just gotta figure out how strong exactly.

On February 25 2006 14:29 TalentedTom wrote: besides playing more aggresive on this flop (which i doubt would make a difference anyway) this seems standard. On the river it really feels as if he may have QK or AJ, 66 is the one hand i will almost never expect here, terrible play by him Actually now that i think about it he needs about 22:1 implied odds on the flop, so he needs to win $88 here, he wins $$62 on the river, $22 on the turn + the pot before the turn. This was actually +EV play amazingly enough. A bigger bet on the flop would trim these implied odds much more

not +EV at all
i have redraw

edit: 2 redraws actually. if 6s comes then i have huge # of outs

yeah your right you have a redraw - but either way this was played in a very marginal fashion. With redraw it is +EV for you, but it is a very slim line you are walking toss in rake into the equation and this is almost break even.

On February 25 2006 14:10 frozzor wrote: to all of you idiots saying check/call the river u suck at poker also reraising pf is also retarded oop

I suppose I was thinking results oriented there for a minute
Betting is good but I think you fold to a raise there anyway