Submitted by : Roald

PokerStars Game #8015575352: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/19 - 07:37:52 (ET)
Table 'Gedania II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SretiCentV ($140 in chips)
Seat 2: Geert99 ($171.75 in chips)
Seat 3: ianjonesy ($79.60 in chips)
Seat 4: patsas ($86.05 in chips)
Seat 5: A1141 ($190.20 in chips)
Seat 6: EvELyNJeAn ($40.40 in chips)
Seat 7: yotekiller ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 8: sneakythumb ($107.65 in chips)
Seat 9: 1oldlady ($109.10 in chips)
patsas: posts small blind $0.50
A1141: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to SretiCentV
EvELyNJeAn: folds
yotekiller: folds
sneakythumb: calls $1
1oldlady: folds
SretiCentV: raises $4 to $5
Geert99: folds
ianjonesy: folds
patsas: folds
A1141: folds
sneakythumb: calls $4

Flop (Pot : $11.5)

   
sneakythumb: bets $14
SretiCentV: raises $19 to $33
sneakythumb: calls $19

Turn (Pot : $77.5)

   
sneakythumb: checks
SretiCentV: checks

River (Pot : $77.5)

   
sneakythumb: bets $29
SretiCentV: calls $29

Showdown
sneakythumb: shows (a pair of Fours)
SretiCentV: shows (a pair of Kings)
SretiCentV collected $132.50 from pot

Summary
Total pot $135.50 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: SretiCentV showed and won ($132.50) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: Geert99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ianjonesy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: patsas (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: A1141 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: EvELyNJeAn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: yotekiller folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sneakythumb showed and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 9: 1oldlady folded before Flop (didn't bet)

why do you check the turn here?

the point of this post was to find out why I shouldn't check turn

edit: what if he's trying to trap me? Seems alot of people cold call flop with sets and then check raise turn to extract value. My thought was that checking behind turn would screw his plan and force him to make a decision on the river. Anyways, if I thought my logic was flawless; I wouldn't have posted it here

turn is read dependent checking isnt bad vs a donkbetting limpcaller readless in fullring IMO

I'd make the flop 45 to go and probably push turn.

Set is as likely as someone overplaying AQ/KQ/JQ/flush draw.

oh wait, he overbet the pot on the flop, no way he has a set

On January 19 2007 05:03 Twisted wrote: I'd make the flop 45 to go and probably push turn. Set is as likely as someone overplaying AQ/KQ/JQ/flush draw. oh wait, he overbet the pot on the flop, no way he has a set

i dont think we can give the villain a certain handrange just based on his flop overbet. villain obviously sucks terribly and has no idea what he is doing as evidenced by him leading strong and calling a raise w/ a pair of 4's like this. i would just try to simplify things and do this one talentedtom style, just try to get it allin w/ ur overpair on this kind of board, and most people will gladly stack off w/ a Q.

Yeah that's what I said basically.

yeah I failed to see the significance in the overbet/call

Thanks guys