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Handnr: 13579
Submitted by : nomanirvana

PokerStars Game #4193741831: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/03/06 - 04:00:04 (ET)
Table 'Ostara' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Ajax82 ($56.10 in chips)
Seat 2: brizzle05 ($16.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Owly ($52.35 in chips)
Seat 4: zEAVIn ($60.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Samdd35 ($20.30 in chips)
Seat 6: MarkSKI77 ($50 in chips)
Seat 7: sklaaaaar ($58.15 in chips)
Seat 8: nomanirvana ($49 in chips)
nomanirvana: posts small blind $0.25
Ajax82: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to nomanirvana JcJd
brizzle05: folds
Owly: folds
zEAVIn: calls $0.50
Samdd35: calls $0.50
MarkSKI77: raises $1.50 to $2
sklaaaaar: folds
nomanirvana: calls $1.75
Ajax82: folds
zEAVIn: calls $1.50
Samdd35: folds

Flop (Pot : $7)

   JsQhAd
nomanirvana: bets $4.50
zEAVIn: calls $4.50
MarkSKI77: folds

Turn (Pot : $16)

   JsQhAdAs
nomanirvana: bets $9.50
zEAVIn: raises $9.50 to $19
nomanirvana: raises $23.50 to $42.50 and is all-in
Owly is sitting out
zEAVIn: folds
nomanirvana collected $51.35 from pot
nomanirvana: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $54 | Rake $2.65
Board  JsQhAdAs

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nomanirvana   United States. Mar 06 2006 02:02. Posts 2523

Good? Or do I get fucked by AQ?

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 Last edit: 06/03/2006 02:04

JustFun[est]   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 02:04. Posts 467

no good AJ AQ kills you.


nomanirvana   United States. Mar 06 2006 02:04. Posts 2523

So I should play it sloooooooooooooooower

bet the pot on the flop and when the ace comes then what?

 Last edit: 06/03/2006 02:09

JustFun[est]   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 02:11. Posts 467

but it was so small chance they would have it.

u were only raiser. that means no AQ AK to expect. AJ is possible. But u have 2 JJ so its unlikly
Most probably A10, A9 guys. So it was ok.

It woulda not matter if u called. U woulda have put chips in on turn anways. I think worked out ok


nomanirvana   United States. Mar 06 2006 02:14. Posts 2523

How do you measure something like this mathematically - the number of times you will get called / get action from an inferior hand vs the number of times you will only get action from a hand that has you beaT?
Seems that QQ or AA are pretty likely on the flop with a raised pot, I get action from AQ, AK...but would those hands really minraise often on the turn like that?

Maybe I should bet smaller on the flop? AQ is 5 to 1 to improve. Safe with a small bet or is that a bad idea because of straight possibility?

 Last edit: 06/03/2006 02:31

JustFun[est]   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 02:38. Posts 467

ok Lets look this again. 2 ppl call your raise they didnt raise. That can mean KQ, KJ etc suited cards, pairs etc. Since he calls flop can mean 2 things. I personally put him on 2 things, JQ 2 pair, K10 straight. Since he reraises u on turn means he had Ace with medium weak kicer, he tries to bluff..dont know havent look him playing on table, or he really had straight and doubts. Ofcouse all decisions depend how he played before on table. I even would put him on QK so he has strraight possibility.

i am kinda confuzed why he folds his raise. I dont think Player with sraight fold it. I think A10 would be best explanation for this. Even then if he folds he must be tight and causious player who belives u have AKAQ or better.


tontonba   . Mar 06 2006 02:43. Posts 1281

he wasnt original pf raiser. shutup, est

nuff said 

nomanirvana   United States. Mar 06 2006 03:02. Posts 2523

Do you guys re-raise with JJ or usually call?


cariadon   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 03:06. Posts 4019

Can't really put him on KT here, can you ? (pf) JustFun.

Zeavin most likely doesn't have QQ/AA because of the pf call. AQ i'd expect him to raise flop.
MarkSKI77 would bet hard on flop with AA/QQ/AQ because he would have to consider his hand to be the best on flop.

Turn Ace is safe the way i see it so yeah i'd say you're good here.

I do play a little lower than you so you can just disregard this.


JustFun[est]   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 03:07. Posts 467

depends on table, number of players, is table tight, your image, numbers of limpers, position.
on button i raise. utg etc limp


cariadon   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 03:07. Posts 4019

Re-raise


Rocks2BeGood   Netherlands. Mar 06 2006 03:52. Posts 3582

good push ;o

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willothewisp   United States. Jun 15 2006 14:35. Posts 7

Whether to raise pf with JJ depends on players' table image. Pf, if I'm in position I reraise and continuous bet. IF you get reraised PF then you can safely fold, as your most likely against AA,KK, or maybe AK. Otherwise, if the board comes 3 rags, you cant really call a big bet without showing down. Hence the PF reraise can save you $.

Anyways, that's my take.


 

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