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Handnr: 13798
Submitted by : Ibsu Bai Hui

** Game ID 711510793 starting - 2006-03-07 05:23:11
** Black Celebration [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- mobility sitting in seat 1 with $140.95 [Dealer]
- bilI_cijlI2 sitting in seat 2 with $111.25
- babyangel19 sitting in seat 3 with $109.05
- Trin666 sitting in seat 4 with $100.05
- disras sitting in seat 5 with $162.98
- Npnine sitting in seat 6 with $17.40

bilI_cijlI2 posted the small blind - $0.50
babyangel19 posted the big blind - $1.00


Holecards
   ThTc
Trin666 called - $1.00
disras called - $1.00
Npnine called - $1.00
mobility folded
bilI_cijlI2 raised - $6.50
babyangel19 called - $6.50
Trin666 called - $6.50
disras folded
Npnine folded


Flop (Pot : $21.5)

   Ks7sTs
bilI_cijlI2 bet - $15.00
babyangel19 went all-in - $103.55
Trin666 folded
bilI_cijlI2 called - $103.55
bilI_cijlI2 shows:AhAs


Turn (Pot : $36.5)

   Ks7sTs3s


River (Pot : $36.5)

   Ks7sTs3sAc
bilI_cijlI2 wins $225.60 from the main pot

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Ibsu Bai Hui   United Kingdom. Mar 06 2006 22:26. Posts 3390

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Floofy says: my sis always goes around in bra but its annopyying to me 

Ibsu Bai Hui   United Kingdom. Mar 06 2006 22:29. Posts 3390

SERIOUSLY FUCK

Floofy says: my sis always goes around in bra but its annopyying to me 

Red9   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:33. Posts 7447

river is just a spit in the face

I will grind you into dust. 

capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:34. Posts 8465

come on that was a bad play why da hell you puched all in for 5x of the pot with the flush out there??? I'd just raise a bit or calll and fold the turn.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

Red9   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:35. Posts 7447

trip tens eh? chibi put him on AA and was right

I will grind you into dust. 

Ibsu Bai Hui   United Kingdom. Mar 06 2006 22:37. Posts 3390

IF HE FLOPS A FUCKING FLUSH MORE THAN 30% OF THE TIME ILL FOLD OK?????

Floofy says: my sis always goes around in bra but its annopyying to me 

PandaSaurus   Australia. Mar 06 2006 22:38. Posts 1651

Call is a bad play, too weak. I'd be tempted to put a pot size reraise and go from there.

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Ibsu Bai Hui   United Kingdom. Mar 06 2006 22:40. Posts 3390

btw this happened to me about an hour ago aswell, same size pot. im yet to WIN a pot over $200 as far as i remember

Floofy says: my sis always goes around in bra but its annopyying to me 

whaackum   United States. Mar 06 2006 22:41. Posts 1586

i like the play a lot

can't do anything about those last 2 cards though

The W. 

capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:42. Posts 8465

there is an almost pot size bet there and he doesn't have a freakin spade!! with 2 more guys in the pot and just a prelfop raise he could never put him on AA he could also been KK or AKspades. how da hell he knew he has AA?

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

PandaSaurus   Australia. Mar 06 2006 22:43. Posts 1651

I dunno, pushing 100 into a 20 pot when he's got you covered is iffy.

I mean he's only going to call with a flush, or a strong redraw hand (like the one he had). I'd like to hear the opinions of some of the good players around here, as I'd be more tempted to see the turn before making a play.

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:44. Posts 8465

I'd call the flop and spades fall I'd call the turn and fold the river and save myself some 100 bucks. but I'm far from a good player!!

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc FaberLast edit: 06/03/2006 22:45

Red9   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:46. Posts 7447

cap that will not make you money overtime

I will grind you into dust. 

whaackum   United States. Mar 06 2006 22:48. Posts 1586

so i think the push is to not give draws a good price for the rest of the hand, and don't forget he can always hit his boat

why let someone drawing see a turn card for cheap??

The W. 

PandaSaurus   Australia. Mar 06 2006 22:48. Posts 1651

Nooo calling the flop is a bad play. He could just have AK and force you out too easily on the turn. IMO the best play would be a pot sized reraise on the flop to represent the strength of your hand. He'll surely push with the flush, or just call with a hand like he had. Check turn and consider folding the river.

Just my opinion.

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:51. Posts 8465

why?? bettin 5 times of the pot is too much specially on the flop when you know you can easily be beat third of the times. I think that's not even mathematically correct play. bettin 5 times the flop when you know he is likly to call and you'll be beat 1 out of 3 times. it's the wrong move over time you'll end up loosin keepin playin like that. I think even mathematically I'm right and that was a bad play. let aside the KK and AKspades theory with the other creep in the pot.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

whaackum   United States. Mar 06 2006 22:51. Posts 1586

making a pot sized bet, about 50 i think, if called would make the pot ~120 with only 50 left in his stack

even if no spade comes on the turn no draw is folding to a push then

The W.Last edit: 06/03/2006 22:54

capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 22:53. Posts 8465

I totally agree with Panda.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

PanoRaMa   United States. Mar 06 2006 22:54. Posts 1655

capaneo technically ibsu is the favorite here, this line was definitely good.

990 games 0.031 secs 31,935 games/sec

Board: Ks 7s Ts
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 64.7475 % 64.75% 00.00% { TcTh }
Hand 2: 35.2525 % 35.25% 00.00% { AhAs }

http://panorama.liquidpoker.net 

PoorUser    United States. Mar 06 2006 23:02. Posts 7471

i completely agree with how this was played
you basically cant fold a set into a raised pot hu on the flop
espcially not here

Gambler Emeritus 

capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 23:02. Posts 8465

I know he is more likly to win but it's not about that you have to consider their stack. that's what I'm sayin is that you'll loose in the long run if you put 5x times of the money in a pot that there are lots of hands that can beat you so easily.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

PoorUser    United States. Mar 06 2006 23:05. Posts 7471

capaneo you are wrong alright
feel free to put this in hand discussion and hear it from better players than myself

Gambler Emeritus 

whaackum   United States. Mar 06 2006 23:06. Posts 1586

the only thing that beats him here is kk or a flopped flush, if it's kk so be it, flopped flush is unlikely in general, so push out draws or just hope for the boat

The W. 

capaneo   Canada. Mar 06 2006 23:06. Posts 8465

I'm not sayin fold I'm sayin a raise and a call on the turn and foldin the river. the only way he can be called on the pot is with a flush or a hand that's more likly to draw him out or even KK specially of that preflop raise KK is so likely to be a holdin also AKspades

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

whaackum   United States. Mar 06 2006 23:15. Posts 1586

so reverse implied odds make a standard raise one of the worse things you can do

not to mention what do you do when you get reraised

The W.Last edit: 06/03/2006 23:16

wolfheart   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 23:16. Posts 7592

where i see the hand?

Never give up. 

whaackum   United States. Mar 06 2006 23:17. Posts 1586

Submitted by : Ibsu Bai Hui

** Game ID 711510793 starting - 2006-03-07 05:23:11
** Black Celebration [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- mobility sitting in seat 1 with $140.95 [Dealer]
- bilI_cijlI2 sitting in seat 2 with $111.25
- babyangel19 sitting in seat 3 with $109.05
- Trin666 sitting in seat 4 with $100.05
- disras sitting in seat 5 with $162.98
- Npnine sitting in seat 6 with $17.40

bilI_cijlI2 posted the small blind - $0.50
babyangel19 posted the big blind - $1.00


Holecards
   ThTc
Trin666 called - $1.00
disras called - $1.00
Npnine called - $1.00
mobility folded
bilI_cijlI2 raised - $6.50
babyangel19 called - $6.50
Trin666 called - $6.50
disras folded
Npnine folded


Flop (Pot : $21.5)

   Ks7sTs
bilI_cijlI2 bet - $15.00
babyangel19 went all-in - $103.55
Trin666 folded
bilI_cijlI2 called - $103.55
bilI_cijlI2 shows:AhAs


Turn (Pot : $36.5)

   Ks7sTs3s


River (Pot : $36.5)

   Ks7sTs3sAc
bilI_cijlI2 wins $225.60 from the main pot

The W. 

wolfheart   Estonia. Mar 06 2006 23:40. Posts 7592

well reraise is best adivice yes to get information on flop.

Personally i like to call and if no spade reraise him on turn. Why i like to call is that if i raise and he reraises me 2 much that i cant call it to see if i hit boat or not.


Never give up. 

whaackum   United States. Mar 07 2006 00:03. Posts 1586

why do you flat call and let drawing hands hang around cheaply???

make them pay, push

The W. 

 

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