i was 31/500 in chips when this hand happened : [

should i have folded preflop after he call/reraised me?

it felt very KK/AA to me, but i couldn't resist after that (seemingly) beautiful flop

The UTG limp in middle/late stages of a game scares the piss outta me, and the reraise pretty much means a monster. I think I'd find a way to get away from this hand, but after the flop there was no way you were getting away from that.

i go broke there every time

imo, check behind on flop. c/r from villain scares you here, given the preflop action. no card on the turn scares you any more than you're already scared except A/K/J.

you should have been VERY confident in your read of AA/KK given the preflop action.

preflop, after getting minreraised, the pot is 9*25 + 600 + 1200 + 2000 = 4025, so you're already getting over 5:1 on a call, and the effective remaining stack size is 10k, so you can get another 12.5:1 in implied odds playing for stacks. so best case scenario you're getting 17.5:1 effective odds on your preflop call. here are equities:

Villain (AdAs): 87.5%
You (AcQc): 12.5%

Villain (KdKh): 67.9%
You (AcQc): 32.1%

Villain (AdKd): 71.3%
You (AcQc): 28.7%

So at worst you're only 6:1 against winning right now. Preflop call of the reraise is fine.

You can't assume he has anything but AA/KK/AKs here, so your hand is demolished by his aggregate range after this flop. Check behind 100%. It's probably useful to commit these kinds of numbers to memory, so let me work out your total winning chances given the flop...

Villain (AdAs): 63.2%
You (AcQc): 36.8%

Villain (KdKh): 61.9%
You (AcQc): 38.1%

Villain (AdKd): 56.6%
You (AcQc): 43.4%

1 way to make AA, 3 ways to make KK, 2 ways to make AKs. average winning chances = [(1*36.8 + 3*38.1 + 2*43.4)/6]% = 39.7%.

So you can profitably call a ton of bets on the flop, because of the stack sizes, pot size, and fact that he's not folding a set even if he thinks you hit your flush/straight. But if you bet here, you're only ever betting into a better hand that is coming over the top. He is only check/raising this flop. Check behind because you'd rather not play for stacks right now.

that said, you basically have to take this 40% gamble for a full stack even if he pushes the flop. you're not going to get any other chances this good for building an enormous stack that will control your entire table. plus you cover him by some amount. even if you lose here, you could double up twice after that and be fine for a while.

so yeah don't ever let this go on the flop, but check behind on flop and you can fold to a lot of bets on the turn. if you hit he's not folding anyway, and he's gonna redraw you sometimes but not that much. plus you could hit the Tc and he'd be drawing dead .

excellent hand analysis corwin

thx a bunch

yea i think my preflop read/call was fine, but many people have noted checking the turn would be the strongest of plays in this situation. As your analysis indicates, i'm behind basically all the hands he could possibly have, but i have huge redraw potential.

Moreover, The impact of the turn is HUGE in this sort of hand, based largely on how much i could take if i do make a hand on the turn. Many players would just accept losing a full stack if i pushed a club flush after checking the flop (in addition to the action on the turn) so, like you said, my implied odds are huge.

Excellent help. I feel like i learned alot from this hand