kill me now thanks

This is spew. You bet so weak on turn and then push on river when the flush completes?

i dont add anything ;P

uh would have thought he calls that much for FD? spew this
and flop call? ridiculous

dont give advice plz

HuHu, think about it. c/f at river is just ridiculous, base on how the hand was played

On April 01 2007 04:19 keuner wrote: i dont add anything ;P

yeah u dont have much to contribute

LoL, don't say not to give advice when you played this badly. Look at your turn bet and then your river push. Does that make sense?

Nice to see you try to follow Rush's foot steps when you don't like logic .

On April 01 2007 04:21 redrain0125 wrote: HuHu, think about it. c/f at river is just ridiculous, base on how the hand was played

I'd admit that I wouldn't c/f at river, but I would also bet $15-16 on turn.

Plus, the guy checked @ river. What made you push?

rofl how do u even determine it was played "badly"

i do not ever see you playing decent poker
move up a few stakes then we'll talk

LoL, I play at $25 NL and some 50 NL. And I am usually up 2-4 buyins at every table. Look at the hands I post, my stack is always 400-500BB.

I'm just saying it was played badly, how do you justify your turn bet and defend it saying it was played right especially when you could have easily checked river?

betting half pot on the turn with such a drawy board is not good. overbetting river when the flush hits is also bad. you gave him odds to draw to the set and then paid him off

i dont like this
bmwfan25: calls $4.75 its clear he is drawing here if he has fucking KQ i would raise A is bad card if he had JT draw he completes here.i am not really sure what was good play here if he is on flushdraw and hits on river we have to pay it off anways.

On April 01 2007 04:31 Roald wrote: betting half pot on the turn with such a drawy board is not good. overbetting river when the flush hits is also bad. you gave him odds to draw to the set and then paid him off

This is all I was saying.

If anything, he should have bet more on time because the board got even more drawy.

rivetbet doesnt matter at all he has 8$ left only .. i think 10$ was good ..but i would check river behind.

On April 01 2007 04:33 wolfheart wrote: rivetbet doesnt matter at all he has 8$ left only .. i think 10$ was good ..but i would check river behind.

LOL wolfheart just owned everyone else that posted in this thread. GG.
seeing as villain checks river, betting for his last $8 is fine.

i think you should bet turn more considering the chance he got a combo draw which would have right odds vs your weak turn bet

since he had a simple flush, you properly charged him even with implied odds. (if you had bet more, any half brained person would easily fold the flush draw, but your ammount is just a little -EV which makes the right fold difficult even for decent players)


river is an easy push

fuckin i see that joke everytime on my limits donks call huge bets and then river hits flush they insta check and insta check behind them and they always show flush

i mean if guy calls 10$ and gets flush on river we still have to pay it off but if he check i would check it behind

so youre saying a reg would put nearly half his stack for a 12outer? this is unlikely. what diff does it make whether i bet $10 or $20 to some idiot who just loves to draw?

as for the river i would nvr ever put him on a FD and wanted to extract full value.

but the turn bet is still too small..$14 or so is much better

On April 01 2007 04:38 wolfheart wrote: fuckin i see that joke everytime on my limits donks call huge bets and then river hits flush they insta check and insta check behind them and they always show flush i mean if guy calls 10$ and gets flush on river we still have to pay it off but if he check i would check it behind

I think they get the mentality of, "Hey... maybe this guy has the flush as well! Maybe my 9 high isn't good... I'll check just in case but call an all-in ."

On April 01 2007 04:39 redrain0125 wrote: so youre saying a reg would put nearly half his stack for a 12outer? this is unlikely. what diff does it make whether i bet $10 or $20 to some idiot who just loves to draw? as for the river i would nvr ever put him on a FD and wanted to extract full value.

lol if hes drawing either way then the difference is that if he misses you make $10 your way and $20 our way. and if he hits you lose an equal amount.

raise more on flop then shove turn ^^

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lol if hes drawing either way then the difference is that if he misses you make $10 your way and $20 our way. and if he hits you lose an equal amount.[/QUOTE]

Wow, this is so simple but I really like this quote...

no on the turn vilian is paying like 10 bux to win 40 bux, and he only has 20% to hit his thing. therefore the turn bet is enough vs a simple flush

and yes i think a reg might call the turn here against your weak bet. most lpers thinks vilian call was correct, even fraser who is quite decent

edit: an ok reg

im referring to the amount he'd call at turn. based on his idiocy he'd call a $15 or even a shove

seriously though i dont mind everyone else's input except huhu's coz he sounds like an elitist douchebag

u got criticized and u flame u r a fag...
manner up

On April 01 2007 04:46 redrain0125 wrote: im referring to the amount he'd call at turn. based on his idiocy he'd call a $15 or even a shove

Maybe you aren't following what the people are saying... There's a reason why he called your $10, and you would never know if he would call a $15 or more because the hand was poorly played.

On April 01 2007 04:48 redrain0125 wrote: seriously though i dont mind everyone else's input except huhu's coz he sounds like an elitist douchebag

Well, I don't intend to sound like one but I don't see why you are singling me out when everyone else is saying the same thing?

Maybe it's because you don't want to hear advice from a fellow 25 NL player? .

if you had a read your opponement is extremely bad and has no concept at all of pots odds (which in my opinion isnt the majority of 25nl players), then push every times
but if you have no read and think vilian might have a clue, your bet made sure to make his call -EV and was more likely to get incorrectly called than a obvious -ev 20$ one.

However, due to the chance he may have a combo draw you have to push every time

A:FS:

On April 01 2007 04:51 TheHuHu wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2007 04:46 redrain0125 wrote: im referring to the amount he'd call at turn. based on his idiocy he'd call a $15 or even a shove Maybe you aren't following what the people are saying... There's a reason why he called your $10, and you would never know if he would call a $15 or more because the hand was poorly played.   On April 01 2007 04:48 redrain0125 wrote: seriously though i dont mind everyone else's input except huhu's coz he sounds like an elitist douchebag Well, I don't intend to sound like one but I don't see why you are singling me out when everyone else is saying the same thing? Maybe it's because you don't want to hear advice from a fellow 25 NL player? .

no u see, theres many differing opinions.

We all agree that you should have bet more on turn and I'm pretty sure that river is going to be called if he pushes,however, I'd like to think that a c/c option is better at river especially on that board.

no

its +EV because first of all its unlikely he has the flush (given bad odds to call at turn)
the way i played it does not show my hand as a flush. if he had ever thought about the river push he'd not likely put me on that flush. most of the times he has a different hand like twopair like AK AQ AX having called off most of his stack and with only $8 remaining he's committed and likely to call the last bet

basically the only thing i find wrong here is the turnbet after evaluating everyones opinions