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Handnr: 177569
Submitted by : dwbranch

PokerStars Game #9506080249: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2007/04/19 - 17:52:00 (ET)
Table 'Priamus II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: bigwhitspeed ($5.12 in chips)
Seat 2: GARDNERGUY ($2.86 in chips)
Seat 3: Bejlmru ($6.23 in chips)
Seat 4: LoboElias ($1.41 in chips)
Seat 5: monnemma ($1.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Cornhoolio ($9.10 in chips)
Seat 7: redneck-shel ($2.08 in chips)
bigwhitspeed : posts small blind $0.01
GARDNERGUY: posts big blind $0.02

Holecards
Dealt to bigwhitspeed KhAh
Bejlmru: calls $0.02
LoboElias: folds
monnemma: folds
Cornhoolio: calls $0.02
redneck-shel: folds
bigwhitspeed : raises $0.08 to $0.10
redneck-shel is sitting out
GARDNERGUY: folds
Bejlmru: calls $0.08
Cornhoolio: calls $0.08

Flop (Pot : $0.32)

   Tc9sAs
bigwhitspeed : bets $0.24
Bejlmru: raises $0.24 to $0.48
Cornhoolio: folds
bigwhitspeed : calls $0.24

Turn (Pot : $1.28)

   Tc9sAs8c
bigwhitspeed : checks
Bejlmru: bets $0.92
bigwhitspeed : folds
Bejlmru collected $1.23 from pot
Bejlmru: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $1.28 | Rake $0.05
Board  Tc9sAs8c
Seat 1: bigwhitspeed (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: GARDNERGUY (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Bejlmru collected ($1.23)
Seat 4: LoboElias folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: monnemma folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Cornhoolio folded on the Flop
Seat 7: redneck-shel (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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dwbranch   United States. Apr 19 2007 16:19. Posts 96

you guys fold here?

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acdawg712   United States. Apr 19 2007 16:36. Posts 2639

no, at NL 5 play top pair like its the nuts and ull win most of the time.

phil hellmuth is genuinely a stupid person and he does not understand poker very well at all - [vital]myth 

wobbly_au   Australia. Apr 20 2007 01:43. Posts 6540

this is 5NL.... I dont think u can put him on the straight...

5nl players think A5 is the nuts here~~~ Ofcourse he could have, straight, set or two pair. But his range is tooooo loose and includes any ace, a good T and also a dodgey flush draw.. U beat too many hands to fold here. I raise him on the flop and push a non spade turn.

The Last Laugh.Last edit: 20/04/2007 01:46

PokerDoc88   Australia. Apr 20 2007 10:23. Posts 3527

I don't think they're going to min-reraise you with any old junk wobbly, you can gather a lot of info from the villains hand by his rr on the flop.

Being oop makes continuing with this hand very difficult: You have 3 options:

1. You think your AK is beat. You fold on the flop.

2a. You think your AK is good. You call flop and call him down on any non-scary turn and river cards.

2b. You think your AK is good. You 3-bet your hand on flop.

I would just like to make note of calling AK on the flop: By calling here on the flop out of position, you must decide whether you're going to play the AK BEYOND the turn. Being out of position, you should be fully aware of the fact that he may bet again on the turn. If you feel you are not willing to call a bet on the turn, you should probably muck it on the flop because a turn bet is going to be coming from villain 80% of the time (because I doubt he's drawing hence he'll want to extract value from his hand). While the idea of mucking AK to a minraise here sounds really gay (it is), you should realize the future implications of calling.

Anyway, villain has limped utg and is first to call your pf raise. Let's assume he plays AT+, all pps, and all suited connectors. If he is drawing, a min-raise here with an unknown opponent to act behind him on an ace-high flop is a dangerous move for him to consider: He's most likely to just call with a draw, to get the third guy involved and help build up a pot cheaply. He may be min-raising a set, AT, 9T, or AJ+. Looking at this range of hands he raises, we lose to 27 of them, beat 16 of them and tie with 6 of them. If you want to include all aces in his range, then be my guest: it makes the case for felting with AK stronger (as it stands with the range I assigned, folding is correct). How ever, ask yourself whether you think he's really going to be stupid enough to play A8 like this.


 

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