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Handnr: 19152
Submitted by : ElkY

PokerStars Game #4434919559: Tournament #21925376, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/03/27 - 19:18:36 (ET)
Table '21925376 102' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Cheecho123 (1230 in chips)
Seat 2: DIZZY38 (1380 in chips)
Seat 3: ali_silver (1830 in chips)
Seat 4: mph999 (1620 in chips)
Seat 5: scotchii (1590 in chips)
Seat 6: ElkY (1680 in chips)
Seat 7: Cats22 (810 in chips)
Seat 8: Jim100 (1370 in chips)
Seat 9: stuohy (1990 in chips)
scotchii: posts small blind 10
ElkY: posts big blind 20

Holecards
Dealt to ElkY AhAc
Cats22: calls 20
Jim100: folds
stuohy: calls 20
Cheecho123: folds
DIZZY38: calls 20
ali_silver: calls 20
mph999: folds
scotchii: calls 10
ElkY: raises 120 to 140
Cats22: folds
stuohy: calls 120
DIZZY38: calls 120
ali_silver: folds
scotchii: folds

Flop (Pot : $480)

   5hTh2s
ElkY: bets 300
stuohy: folds
DIZZY38: raises 940 to 1240 and is all-in
ElkY: calls 940

Turn (Pot : $2960)

   5hTh2sKc

River (Pot : $2960)

   5hTh2sKcQh

Showdown
ElkY: shows AhAc (a pair of Aces)
DIZZY38: shows 2cTs (two pair, Tens and Deuces)
DIZZY38 collected 2960 from pot

Summary
Total pot 2960 | Rake 0
Board  5hTh2sKcQh
Seat 1: Cheecho123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DIZZY38 showed 2cTs and won (2960) with two pair, Tens and Deuces
Seat 3: ali_silver folded before Flop
Seat 4: mph999 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: scotchii (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ElkY (big blind) showed AhAc and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: Cats22 folded before Flop
Seat 8: Jim100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: stuohy folded on the Flop

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2006 17:30. Posts 8465

why did you call the flop?? I think it's so obvious he has something better than your overpair. I don't think he actually thought you were after the blinds or something preflop after you bet the flop like that.

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PoorUser    United States. Mar 27 2006 17:41. Posts 7471

^shut up.

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2006 17:44. Posts 8465

why?? come on my comment is more like a quesiton I'm tryin to learn. where in my logic you think I'm wrong? the kid see a raise and a pot size bet on the flop and he put more than half of a buy in inot the pot what you think he has, Jacks??

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc FaberLast edit: 27/03/2006 17:45

uiCk   Canada. Mar 27 2006 17:47. Posts 3521

i would put him maybe on a set, but usually its like TPTK. not 10 2 or 10 5

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Ket    United Kingdom. Mar 27 2006 17:50. Posts 8665

loads of behind hands push there. flushdraws, 3-4, top pair, JJ, and oftentimes just some random lower pocket pair. combined with the odds he's getting to call, folding isnt an option


capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2006 17:50. Posts 8465

I know I'd think the same TT is a very likely holding here. Hey poor do you have an argument to support your point?

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PanoRaMa   United States. Mar 27 2006 17:53. Posts 1655


  On March 27 2006 16:50 capaneo wrote:
I know I'd think the same TT is a very likely holding here. Hey poor do you have an argument to support your point?



the point is your first comment appeared condescending which people here frown on when you're directing it to a player who is much better than you are

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PoorUser    United States. Mar 27 2006 17:53. Posts 7471

yeah you suck.
dont say its so obvious that elky is behind when its clearly not. had it been elky would have folded. he is infinitely a better player than either of us - that should be argument enough to support his call.

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2006 17:53. Posts 8465

and why somebody who knows he is only %30 to win and he knows he is gonna get a call push 1k into the pot?

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2006 17:56. Posts 8465

come on I'm not sayin Elky is a fish I'm just sayin that was a bad call. Even the best players make mistakes.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

RiKD    United States. Mar 27 2006 17:59. Posts 9041

capaneo shut up plz


PoorUser    United States. Mar 27 2006 18:00. Posts 7471

go weak/tight poker in some other hand discussion

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capaneo   Canada. Mar 27 2006 18:05. Posts 8465

where should I go check exactly to learn more about weak/tight poker?

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

[vital]Myth    United States. Mar 29 2006 10:07. Posts 12159

capaneo, this is definitely NOT a bad call AT ALL. this is a tournament, and what Ket said is 100% accurate. sure, this geek who limp/called COULD have a better hand, but there are a TON of worse hands he could have too. Elky's AA, especially since he has the Ah, is crushing the villain's range. even in this case, elky had 5 outs on the turn and 8 outs on the river, unless another T or 2 landed.

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