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Handnr: 21380
Submitted by : capaneo

PokerStars Game #4545016856: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/04/06 - 22:34:03 (ET)
Table 'Gajdariya' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: quentinus ($76.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Racar ($47.25 in chips)
Seat 3: dtrivett ($71.30 in chips)
Seat 4: Mr.SurreyBC ($39.95 in chips)
Seat 5: gdshaffer ($50.85 in chips)
Seat 6: capaneo ($58.05 in chips)
Seat 7: nomanirvana ($52.55 in chips)
Seat 8: CARNIVIAN ($29.70 in chips)
Seat 9: choial ($64.35 in chips)
Mr.SurreyBC: posts small blind $0.25
gdshaffer: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to capaneo TdTh
capaneo: raises $1.50 to $2
nomanirvana: folds
CARNIVIAN: folds
choial: folds
quentinus: folds
Racar: folds
dtrivett: folds
Mr.SurreyBC: calls $1.75
gdshaffer: folds

Flop (Pot : $4.5)

   QsTsQc
Mr.SurreyBC: checks
capaneo: checks

Turn (Pot : $4.5)

   QsTsQc4d
Mr.SurreyBC: bets $2
capaneo: calls $2

River (Pot : $8.5)

   QsTsQc4dAc
Mr.SurreyBC: bets $4.50
capaneo: raises $49.55 to $54.05 and is all-in
Mr.SurreyBC: calls $31.45 and is all-in

Showdown
capaneo: shows TdTh (a full house, Tens full of Queens)
Mr.SurreyBC: shows QhQd (four of a kind, Queens)
Mr.SurreyBC collected $77.40 from pot
capaneo said, "nice"
capaneo said, "!!"

Summary
Total pot $80.40 | Rake $3
Board  QsTsQc4dAc
Seat 1: quentinus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Racar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dtrivett (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Mr.SurreyBC (small blind) showed QhQd and won ($77.40) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: gdshaffer (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: capaneo showed TdTh and lost with a full house, Tens full of Queens
Seat 7: nomanirvana folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CARNIVIAN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: choial folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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capaneo   Canada. Apr 06 2006 20:39. Posts 8465

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In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

DaEm0niCuS   United States. Apr 06 2006 20:42. Posts 3292

BURNED


capaneo   Canada. Apr 06 2006 20:43. Posts 8465

the push on the river was actually somehow dumb because of AQ

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

nomanirvana   United States. Apr 06 2006 20:52. Posts 2523

Whats the point of checking the flop when you are in position? And what is the point of flat calling a half potsized bet on the turn? You picked the worst possible time to randomly get aggressive. It is a RAISED pot you want action on that flop from AQ / AA / KK / Qx / flush draw / straight draw TONS of hands.

 Last edit: 06/04/2006 20:55

capaneo   Canada. Apr 06 2006 20:55. Posts 8465

to let him hit if he is on a flush draw or str8 draw. to let him think if he has a Q he has the best hand!(unfortunatly he had 2)

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc FaberLast edit: 06/04/2006 20:55

tontonba   . Apr 06 2006 20:57. Posts 1281

check flop is fine

raise the turn tho

nuff said 

all_in_4tw   Canada. Apr 06 2006 20:58. Posts 4515

wow.. crazy flop

nothing you could do D;

I sometimes fold AA preflop to balance my rangeLast edit: 06/04/2006 20:59

nomanirvana   United States. Apr 06 2006 21:00. Posts 2523

You are in position on the flop in a raised pot, if you bet the last hand he is going to put you on is pocket 10s, he will put you on AA / KK. If he has a single Queen he will think he has the best hand regardless of what you do. Betting in position doesnt show as much strenght as betting out of position so you should capitalize on that. It doesnt matter that in this particular case he had QQ because more often you will get action from AQ / flush or straight draw / AA / KK etc etc.

Yeah and on the river you can only beat two likely hands: KJ or KQ, maybe AK but thats less likely.

 Last edit: 06/04/2006 21:02

capaneo   Canada. Apr 06 2006 21:01. Posts 8465

actually I wanted to raise him there but I was thinkin it would scare him if he was bettin his a draw. and I already had a full house so I still think check was fine. plus he might consider bluffin the river if he miss a draw a I've just flat called on the turn.

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

nomanirvana   United States. Apr 06 2006 21:04. Posts 2523

There may be little danger of getting outdrawn but theres also the fact that you arent even making any money off your hand which is the whole point of the game. You have the 3rd best possible hand on that flop, for practical purposes you have the nuts. Its a raised pot think of all the hands that would love that flop:

KJs
KQ
AQ
AA
KK
AKs

These hands pay $$$. Q10 and QQ are the only ones to worry about being aggressive against and they are so unlikely its pointless to worry at these limits. And that all-in at the end you are only getting called when you are beat by many of those hands that you couldve extracted value from on the flop and turn. If they fold river your only winning like 8 bucks with your full house.

 Last edit: 06/04/2006 21:11

capaneo   Canada. Apr 06 2006 21:10. Posts 8465

So you are sayin it was donkey played?

In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber 

nomanirvana   United States. Apr 06 2006 21:18. Posts 2523

Pretty much, theres really no point to slowplaying such a monster hand. I can somewhat understand the flop check although I probably would have bet anyway but definitely raise the turn. Hes calling with a flush draw on the flop and checkraising with a bunch of hands that you have beat.

 Last edit: 06/04/2006 21:20

 

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