Submitted by : Daut

PokerStars Game #4552450571: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/04/07 - 18:20:22 (ET)
Table 'Tatjana' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: natbot8 ($269.65 in chips)
Seat 2: Daut44 ($220.05 in chips)
Seat 3: SimPrez ($89.55 in chips)
Seat 4: BigBluffn83 ($52.80 in chips)
Seat 5: WIZ69 ($122.80 in chips)
Seat 6: mrnice601 ($128.90 in chips)
Seat 7: chagiie ($81.80 in chips)
Seat 8: kuaneasy ($330.40 in chips)
WIZ69: posts small blind $1
mrnice601: posts big blind $2
lee676: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Daut44
chagiie: folds
kuaneasy: raises $6 to $8
natbot8: folds
Daut44: raises $14 to $22
SimPrez: folds
BigBluffn83: folds
WIZ69: folds
mrnice601: folds
kuaneasy: calls $14

Flop (Pot : $47)

   
kuaneasy: checks
Daut44: bets $32
kuaneasy: raises $32 to $64
Daut44: calls $32

Turn (Pot : $175)

   
kuaneasy: checks
Daut44: checks

River (Pot : $175)

   
kuaneasy: checks
Daut44: bets $102
kuaneasy said, "KK?"
kuaneasy: calls $102

Showdown
Daut44: shows (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
kuaneasy: mucks hand
kuaneasy said, "nice"
Daut44 collected $376 from pot

Summary
Total pot $379 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: natbot8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Daut44 showed and won ($376) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 3: SimPrez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BigBluffn83 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: WIZ69 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: mrnice601 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: chagiie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kuaneasy mucked

on flop his check raise limited him to QQ AA. it seemed more like QQ, like 65% QQ 35% AA. so i called flop to see his turn action. if i raise here, i lose QQ and AA stacks me.

he checked turn so i was 100% sure QQ. i wasnt sure how to maximize value out of it though. this line worked but i dont think it's best. should i make a goofy turn bet like 75 and hope he calls then get the rest in on river?

I prefer to bet weak on the turn.

i'd bet the turn but weak rep. weakness. his check is weird but you might be able to get QQ to c/r you there

35% AA without rereraise on flop? Aces get cracked so often. People would have learn by now

this type of opponent NEVER chkr's QQ in there
cuz, yknow, they have no penis
just vulva
big vulva

lucifer:you'd think so, it's crazy the number of times i see people limp/slowplay uber pps (50nl)

Daut44 collected $376 from pot

i think your line worked just fine

alternate line may be to bet 1/2pot on turn then 1/4 pot on riv
that doubles potsize going to riv and he won't fold for like 80
and if he does his ass is open for business and you should start going to town in position

On April 07 2006 18:19 Casper... wrote: Daut44 collected $376 from pot i think your line worked just fine

agree``

I'd bet the turn 1/2 pot and river 1/3.

On April 07 2006 15:36 tomson wrote: I prefer to bet weak on the turn.

Agreed - you can value bet the whole way OR

You can check turn and overbet river.


Those are the best two options here.

Well about the "dummy" $70 bet on the turn i think it may backfire, lets say he senses weakness or something and he raises you, now you really dont know if you are against Queens or Aces, sure ur going to take his stack with Queens but i think you wont know where you stand, i would play it the same way u did.

I like the way you played it BigBalls, i don't think i would bet the turn, as the turn check forced him to pay off that very nice river bet.

I think you might have been able to put in a $120-130 size bet and he'd still be calling

On April 08 2006 00:50 Baal wrote: Well about the "dummy" $70 bet on the turn i think it may backfire, lets say he senses weakness or something and he raises you, now you really dont know if you are against Queens or Aces

So? You would lose your stack against AA and win it against QQ.

But BigBalls said here that he is 100% that his opponent has got QQ. And he has a point - it doesn't seem likes Aces.

I just think it's an awful shame not to get his stack here, when you've invested nearly half of your own.

On April 08 2006 01:14 JonnyCosMo wrote: I think you might have been able to put in a $120-130 size bet and he'd still be calling

134$ would essentially put BigBalls all-in. This means he loses his stack against AA each time and wins against QQ some of the time. I can imagine someone with QQ folding to a bet like that on the river. I can't see them folding it to a small bet on the turn and a consequent push on the river.

On April 07 2006 15:29 BigBalls wrote: on flop his check raise limited him to QQ AA. it seemed more like QQ, like 65% QQ 35% AA. so i called flop to see his turn action. if i raise here, i lose QQ and AA stacks me. he checked turn so i was 100% sure QQ. i wasnt sure how to maximize value out of it though. this line worked but i dont think it's best. should i make a goofy turn bet like 75 and hope he calls then get the rest in on river?

hm why u limit him to QQ AA only? i think 77 can play it the same way. (or is it just me raising 77 preflop? )

or he can basically have anything like AK/AQ and checkraising if he thinks u are bluffing with AK or something...

i like the way u played it

On April 08 2006 01:16 tomson wrote: Show nested quote + On April 08 2006 00:50 Baal wrote: Well about the "dummy" $70 bet on the turn i think it may backfire, lets say he senses weakness or something and he raises you, now you really dont know if you are against Queens or Aces So? You would lose your stack against AA and win it against QQ. But BigBalls said here that he is 100% that his opponent has got QQ. And he has a point - it doesn't seem likes Aces. I just think it's an awful shame not to get his stack here, when you've invested nearly half of your own.

i tought he said he was sure on the river, if he was on the turn a small confusing turn bet wouldnt be that awful probably o_o?